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RUE
Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:00 PM

CTS
For example, my kid is learning about HIV as the cause of AIDS...

StoryMark
Huh? What alternate theory is there?

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I wonder, too.

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Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:06 PM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
For example, my kid is learning about HIV as the cause of AIDS...


Huh? What alternate theory is there?



First, let me clarify that with HIV/AIDS, I personally have no alternative theory. I simply believe there are unanswered questions that have been dismissed simply because authorities feel they already KNOW the cause of AIDS. For example, I think there is evidence that HIV might be a co-factor as opposed to being the sole cause. I also think it is disingenuous to define AIDS as an HIV infection, when others with AIDS symptoms but no HIV antibodies are diagnosed with something else. There is just a lot of sloppy science in this field that cannot justify automatic and total acceptance of the HIV/AIDS link.

Here are a couple of links to "AIDS dissidents." The most famous of the dissidents is Peter Duesberg. Now I don't agree with everything he says, but he does raise some good questions.

http://rethinkingaids.com/
http://www.duesberg.com/
http://virusmyth.net/aids/
http://www.aliveandwell.org/
http://www.orgonelab.org/hiv_aids.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_reappraisal

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Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:18 PM

Just an interjection here: HIV IS the cause of AIDS- in those who are susceptible. To others who are exposed, it is not.

Chrisisall, PhDuh

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RUE
Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:56 PM

I went to every link and found not one 'compelling' or even mildly interesting claim.

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RUE
Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:01 PM

But anyway, not to get too sidetracked ... I think the reason why LeadB finds the FSM insulting to x-tians is that he sees it as a parody, not as a logical argument. Though if you see it as a parody, it could be a parody of any religion.

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Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
I went to every link and found not one 'compelling' or even mildly interesting claim.


You mean a claim that there is another cause? Well, I don't believe there is another cause of it.
But one thing's for sure; it's man-made. An accident to be sure, but our doing nonetheless. Just like the anti-biotic resistant colds these days.

We play God and resent the price Chrisisall

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Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
But anyway, not to get too sidetracked ... I think the reason why LeadB finds the FSM insulting to x-tians is that he sees it as a parody, not as a logical argument. Though if you see it as a parody, it could be a parody of any religion.


Yeah, well, Buddhists eat the most noodles, so I'd say it was aimed at us....

Noodly Chrisisall

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RUE
Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:11 PM

Really ? Rice noodles ? Like those wide ones you get in Thai restaurants ?


MMMMmmmmmmmhhhhh ... nnoooooodles

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Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:13 PM

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MMMMmmmmmmmhhhhh ... nnoooooodles




Buddha bless you Chrisisall

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Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
First, let me clarify that with HIV/AIDS, I personally have no alternative theory. I simply believe there are unanswered questions that have been dismissed simply because authorities feel they already KNOW the cause of AIDS. For example, I think there is evidence that HIV might be a co-factor as opposed to being the sole cause.

Erm, HIV destroys the immune system, eventually leading to the condition called AIDS. That AIDS like syndromes (essentially loss of the immune system) can be found from other causes, doesn't mean HIV doesn't cause it. Radiation Sickness can destroy the immune system, that's AIDS like symptoms right there.

But to say that casts doubt on HIV as a cause of AIDS? To me that sounds like suggesting the Flu is a co-factor in a sore throat, because you get one with Tonsillitis?



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