Funny Taser Video
POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 19:48
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Huh. Hero, as much as you try to hide it, you DO have a heart after all. 
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'Hero' thinks that any type of physical or mental suffering is OK until someone gets physically damaged - 'hurt'.
I wonder how he would prosecute a hate crime like a cross burning, or emotional abuse of children. B/c they must be a real hoot to him - after all, no on got 'hurt'.
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Originally posted by rue:
I wonder how he would prosecute a hate crime like a cross burning, or emotional abuse of children. B/c they must be a real hoot to him - after all, no on got 'hurt'.
The emotional abuse of children is a very subjective area. Some consider making a child play sports to be emotional abuse. Then again some parents are very good a beating a child down with words but never laying a finger on them.
Even if proven such conduct may not rise to be a criminal violation in every case. That does not mean the State is powerless since Child Services has powers the prosecutor does not. If a crime, as defined by the Ohio Revised Code, has been committed, I'll prosecute it...
I recently prosecuted a nice lady for Child Endangering after she let her little kid wander several blocks away to the grocery store. I also prosecuted some parents for not sending their kids to school (and not home schooling them either...just leaving them at the motel while the parents went off to their jobs).
As for cross burning, thats ones never come up. If it does...well I doubt those folks will be very welcome in the County jail...
I note for the record I did recently prosecute a racially motivated assault with a deadly weapon. Guy got drunk and went after neighbor all the while using the "N" word. Good case. Fella is in prison now. The Civil Rights violation is a Federal matter and I referred it to the DOJ, but since we got a conviction and nobody got killed, they'll probably let it be (after all no point putting him in jail if he's already in jail).
H
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So if one neighbor tasers another is that an assault ? Or a joke ?
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Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
So if one neighbor tasers another is that an assault ? Or a joke ?
No reason it can't be both. It'll be really funny to the guy NOT going to jail.
H
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I wonder what your bosses would think of you saying you find the crimes you prosecute to be amusing, as opposed to, say, unacceptable ...
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Hey, thought I would throw my two cents in as I'm living in Vancouver and have heard a lot about this Taser incident.
1. The man who was tasered was told by his mother to wait at the baggage claim for her. She forgot the baggage claim is on the other side of customs. Therefore, he waited and waited and waited for his mother.
2. At some point he become aggressive, throwing chairs and the like.
3. Security cordoned him off and attempted communication, but as you can see hear in the video no one knew which language he spoke (they assumed it was Russian).
4. The police were called in and as he was already aggressive they met his force with the taser (which I might add has been proven to be harmless except in cases of drugs or rare medical conditions), and is a much better option than whacking him over the head with batons.
I will point out that the Police could have given him another chance to calm down upon his realising the police were getting involved. Nonetheless he was not submitting to their authority and there was a stand off.
5. Once he was tasered, regardless of whether he should have been or not, he resisted. You can hear a bystander in the video mention that he wasn't giving in. This is the reason the officers were required to subdue him by body weight until they could properly restrain him.
Unfortunately, the effect of that pressure on his heart combined with the state he was in resulted in a heart attack.
While I believe that the police could have taken a extra step or two I in no way believe they did not follow due process and while unfortunate and sad they are in no way culpable for his death.
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"That said the police failed to take into account his language problem, despite being told and it being readily apparent. They did not take into account his non-aggressive demeanor. The seemed to act too quickly, with incomplete information, and without regard to the totality of the circumstances. They then failed to percieve the man's medical distress and failed to act in a timely manner to attempt to mitigate his condition.
I understand the need, particularly in airports and such, to act quickly and decisivly, and I believe this was the goal of the officers, never the less I found this incident to be inappropriate from the moment the decision is made to initiate a violent physical confrontation with a tasered man.
I view this incident in the light most favorable to the police, but still reach that conclusion.
At best they demonstrate a simple lack of judgement likely from poor training, leadership, or policies, at worst criminal negligence."
Well, Hero has left me with nothing to say, cause that is my assesment as well, although my version of it woulda been a lot less polite.
We need to address a lot of this conduct at the training and policy level, rather than incident by incident, after the fact.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Hello all,
I've noticed a lot of witch hunting going around, and I wish we'd stop it. I am guilty of this to some extent. I think it's possible to disagree with someone's position without villifying them.
Are the conservative tyrants and liberal communists amongst our fan base really deserving of all the vitriol and vendetta that we can muster? Do we need to follow them from thread to thread and pick them apart, not for the strength of their logic, but for the crime of representing the 'wrong position' or the 'wrong side?'
If these chosen nemeses display chronically flawed reasoning, then ought we not to rejoice instead of lambasting them? Surely, it will therefore be easier to deconstruct their arguments. We have no cause to insult their character if we can defeat their position.
I wish we'd all do better than to label each other and make enemies. I wish we wouldn't resort to name-calling and judgementalism. Whatever our political disagreements, I'm confident that at the end of the day, we're not all that different.
That means that Hero doesn't have horns on his head, Rue isn't foaming at the mouth, and even Piratenews probably isn't wearing a tinfoil hat
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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I'm curious - did I foam ? Did I call anyone names ?
I thought I did a pretty good job de-constructing Hero's logic - by following it to its logical end.
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