Hollywood takes it on the chin w/ Anti- war movies
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Friday, March 14, 2025 17:13
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From boxofficemojo.com
Lions for Lambs
Actors:
Tom Cruise
Meryl Streep
Robert Redford
Michael Pena
Derek Luke
Peter Berg
Domestic Summary
Opening weekend - as of Nov. 11, 2007: $6,710,000 (Estimate)
2,215 theaters, $3,029 average
Distributor: United Artists Release Date: November 9, 2007
Genre: War Drama Running Time: 1 hrs. 28 min.
MPAA Rating: R Production Budget: N/A <---- eh?
Readers grade:
As: 68 25.8%
Bs: 10 3.8%
Cs: 10 3.8%
Ds: 24 9.1%
Fs: 152 57.6%
And just for fun.....
SERENITY
Actors: Nathan Fillion, Gina Torres, Alan Tudyk, Morena Baccarin, Adam Baldwin, Jewel Staite, Sean Maher....
DOMESTIC SUMMARY
Opening Weekend: $10,086,680
(2,188 theaters, $4,610 average)
Distributor: Universal Release Date: September 30, 2005
Genre: Sci-Fi Adventure Running Time: 1 hrs. 59 min.
MPAA Rating: PG-13 Production Budget: $39 million
GRADE BREAKDOWN
As: 1,951 74.6%
Bs: 320 12.2%
Cs: 141 5.4%
Ds: 54 2.1%
Fs: 149 5.7%
Despite blockbuster actors and a near legend for director, our BDM outshined this pretentious piece of go- se.
Makes me a bit proud, it does.
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I guess with as bad as things are going for those of your ideology, you have to tout any victory, no matter how trivial.
So, good for you. A movie that no-one (on either side of the debate) wants to see bombed. Bravo.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
I guess with as bad as things are going for those of your ideology, you have to tout any victory, no matter how trivial.
So, good for you. A movie that no-one (on either side of the debate) wants to see bombed. Bravo.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
It simply shows that folks aren't buying the Hollywood Left's vision of a evil, bad America being the cause of all the world's ills. If things are going bad for freedom, which is my idealogy, then we should all worry, not just those on the right.
"Hillary tried to get a million dollars for the Woodstock museum. I understand it was a major cultural and pharmaceutical event. I couldn't attend. I was tied up at the time." - John McCain
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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LOL, this thread makes no sense.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
It simply shows that folks aren't buying the Hollywood Left's vision of a evil, bad America being the cause of all the world's ills. If things are going bad for freedom, which is my idealogy, then we should all worry, not just those on the right.
Not really. It just shows people aren't into seeing stories set in that theatre, yet. The series "Over There" wasn't anti-war, and it still bombed. Musicals were the genre of choice durring WWII. Movies depicting that was weren't popular untill it was over.
But if you think that this is some sort of evidence of anyone rejecting a "liberal" agenda, you're kidding yourself (which isn't exactly a rare thing, but still...).
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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While I like Redford, there seems to be a consensus from the critics that the movie says nothing new, and is more preachy than insightful...
in short, it appears not to have worked so well...
odd that all those "liberal" movie critics would weigh in on this movie negatively, don't you think Auraptor?
Sometimes a movie just bombs...It's not glitzy, it didn't generate any good buzz from any circle,
so few people went to see it.
big whoop.
It suggests nothing about the message itself, or the noted agreement that Americans have now about the current war...
why do you post crap like this?
Do you actually go to a movie just hear a certain version of propaganda?
If so, I guess that really does highlight the differences between liberals and conservatives, doesn't it?
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Quote:Liberals often try to dismiss Hollywood’s detachment from the reality of US opinions, but the fact is that Hollywood often misjudges the American public. And with the current trend of anti-war movies, there’s no doubt that this is exactly what happened. Hollywood invested in several big budget, big name films designed to capitalize on what they perceive, from their Postmodern Liberal perspective, to be an anti-war, anti-Bush and possibly even somewhat anti-American trend in the American public. And I have no doubt that such films appeal to similar Left-leaning individuals, most of whom are on the coasts in the cities like New York and San Francisco, but they don’t appeal, and rarely have, to middle America - to people in my neck of the woods - where the majority of population is. And it doesn‘t make a lot sense to sink so many millions into films that only appeal to 20% of the population, but Hollywood does it all the time, and their confident that these films will appeal to so many people that they often don‘t even try to make the films any good. It‘s particularly evident in their propensity for racy R-rated type films that push the envelope, when simple somewhat conservative family films have shown, time and time again, to bring in bigger bucks.
Originally posted by Righteous9:
If so, I guess that really does highlight the differences between liberals and conservatives, doesn't it?
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It's product that's all. If the war was going well and had 70% approval then we would have positive war movies. Hollywood makes what they think will sell movie tickets.
If this proves anything it proves the point someone made in another thread (Frem?) the American public is sick of hearing about the war rather than being sick of the act of war. The mistake these movie folks have made it to equate the two. If people are sick of hearing about the war that's ALL news about it, pro or anti, and that seems to have been born out.
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Quote:Actually that was a point I made several times, some time ago. The American public is sick of hearing about the war. They aren’t sick of hearing about success in the war though, just failure (or more accurately ongoing lack of success). Frem I think originally disagreed with it, somewhat vehemently as I remember, but seemed to warm up to the idea later.
Originally posted by Fletch2:
If this proves anything it proves the point someone made in another thread (Frem?) the American public is sick of hearing about the war rather than being sick of the act of war.
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I like Redford... nearly as much as I dislike Tom Cruise
While I enjoy writers like Tom Clancy, I oppose many of the position the characters take in those novels,
It is possible to be entertained by things you do not support
Such as Bush's losing war... I do not support it, and if it wasnt costing so many lives I'd likely be entertained by it.
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