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WGA Writers' Strike

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 7:31 PM

Whoah, MicJWelch!

No need to apologize; that's pretty gorram shiny!

Lotsa big names on that list: Mel Brooks, Harlan Ellison, Lawrence Kasdan...

Kinda reminds you that, while we don't know mosta the studio big-wigs, THESE are the names we KNOW that make Hollywood for US.

Let's give 'em all our support!

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Sunday, November 11, 2007 11:55 PM

The Governator weighs in on the WGA strike:

http://tv.yahoo.com/show/28479/news/urn:newsml:tv.reuters.com:20071109
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Arnie to the rescue!

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Monday, November 12, 2007 12:08 AM

Okay, mad-scientist post transplant ("The Thread From Another Forum!"):

[quote name='Raycheetah' date='Nov 8 2007, 12:02 AM' post='4472509']
Y'know, the whole strike thing raises a question for us Browncoats, a question of priorities.

On another thread [on the original forum] there is discussion, which I had initially enthusiastically endorsed, about seeing if Universal might be able to get their license for Firefly extended to their sister Network, NBC. The reasoning was, if, by any chance, NBC aired the 14 episodes of Firefly, in front of an audience which might not otherwise have seen it, it would be a boost for the fandom.

Aside from the debatability of the notion (hey, crazier things have worked), it kinda runs counter to the idea of supporting the writers in their strike. Much as I might wish to take advantage of the opportunity to capitalize on the situation, it ain't the right thing to do.

There're also a lot of folks who are posting Wavecards asking Universal for a sequel. We could do that after the strike, as easily as now. This ain't the time to be askin' the studios for anything, not if we respect what Joss is sayin' about the strike, not if we respect what's right and fair for the rest of the folks who create what we enthuse over.

It's pens down for the writers. I think it oughtta be pens down for us Browncoats, 'cept what we write in support of the strike, too.

-Raycheetah ='[.]'=





[quote name='Raycheetah' date='Nov 11 2007, 09:40 AM' post='4488457']
In answer to your questions as raised on another thread, Narien, my position is that, anything we watch on TV (yeah, I know, the networks can't monitor us all) during the strike still supports the networks, since they can base their ad revenues on viewership of any gorram thing they air, so long as they get ratings. New shows, old shows... Also, new movies (OUCH!). Anything which drives studio revenues (including webcasts of TV shows; they have ads on those, too, and, can likely track the usage better than TV) helps perpetuate the situation.

We strangle the revenues, we hasten the time at which the studios have to go back to the table.

Sadly, this also extends to new DVD purchases, and, to licensed merchandise, like the Serenity Wavecards. As a licensed product, they are a small but real part of the revenue stream. Also, at this point, going to Universal (or, NBC), cunning hats in our hands, asking for largesse is exactly opposite the hard-line stance of supporting the WGA. I know, we have such a small impact. But, it IS an impact. If Uni/NBC sees us asking pretty please, they can be confident that we're not boycotting them.

And, I keep coming back to what Joss has said and done. Would even Joss want us to be askin' the "other side" for more Firefly/Serenity, right now? Or, would he prefer our support and solidarity, as Browncoats? We wield substantial power as a fandom; I feel that it is time to wield it on Joss' behalf, along with all the other writers who are striking for their futures, not for what we want.

I'm not on the lines, carryin' a sign, but, I can still picket.

-Raycheetah =^[.]^=




[quote name='Sephiroth144' date='Nov 11 2007, 06:35 PM' post='4490318']
Exactly!

And, speaking as someone who IS on the lines carrying a sign, thank you- we WILL do the impossible with your help, and that will make US all mighty...



Just to add some salient points, without having to re-type every gorram word...


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Monday, November 12, 2007 12:31 AM

Doesn't anybody else here think it is rather selfish for these writers to be thinking about miniscule matters like being treated fairly and feeding their families, when I am starving for entertainment?

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Monday, November 12, 2007 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rallem:
Doesn't anybody else here think it is rather selfish for these writers to be thinking about miniscule matters like being treated fairly and feeding their families, when I am starving for entertainment?


*Observes that Rallem /appears/ to be using sarcasm.*


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Monday, November 12, 2007 12:47 AM

Did my effort suck?

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Monday, November 12, 2007 1:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rallem:
Did my effort suck?




Not at all. Why do you ask?

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Monday, November 12, 2007 1:41 AM

You noted that I made an effort at sarcasm, which to me mean that I didn't really do a good job at it.

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Monday, November 12, 2007 2:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rallem:
You noted that I made an effort at sarcasm, which to me mean that I didn't really do a good job at it.



No, actually I observed that you /appeared/ to be using sarcasm; it was a successful effort, if one may view it as such.

I just wanted to be sure my sarcasometer was properly calibrated.

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Monday, November 12, 2007 3:55 AM

Ran into a great piece written by Mark Harris;
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20159387,00.html

here's a snip
"If you run a company that produces written entertainment, you either believe that writers have value, or you don't. If you do, the only
decent thing to do is to recognize the legitimacy of paying writers a percentage — yes, a whole two-thirds of a penny — as long as the companies
that own their work continue to derive income from it. What's not decent is to have spent valuable
negotiating time floating a specious theory of big-picture bullcrap about how the residual system is ''antiquated'' without offering any alternative compensation in its place."

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