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Global Warming - Greatest scam in history !

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Friday, November 9, 2007 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by Righteous9:
dude, are you telling me there should be no lines drawn?

A matter of degrees is exactly what we are talking about...

you are not free to walk outside and shoot a gun down the street, pedestrians be damned. Balances have to be considered.



Absolutely, but who decides?

Our laws in the US are pretty much legislated by folks that are elected to office, supposedly responsible to their constituents, and subject to removal if they make too many folks too mad.

The majority of folks in some places (not all BTW) don't want firearms shot down the street, or fireworks set off. In Hungry Horse, MT. folks stand on opposite sides of the main drag on July 4th and shoot fireworks at each other.

If the people want action on global warming, let them elect folks who'll act on it. I'm afraid that the "We must do something now!" crowd won't wait for that.


"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, November 9, 2007 10:47 PM

*steps out on the front porch, lights a cigar, farts loudly and waves downwind...*

My in town ride and only vehicle I use besides the ones of my employer, gets 180-213 MPG, and has less emissions profile than your yard equipment.

Compare that to 11mpg SUVs immune to most emissions restrictions cause of their GVW and then explain to me how any of them fuckers have any kind of right to bitch at ME for smoking ?

You can bitch about my secondhand smoke,
When I can bitch about your secondhand emissions.

Seriously tho, fuck the law, I see it as a respect issue, respect for youself (conspicuous consumption is just freakin crass), respect for others and respect to your living space but not effectively crapping where ya live, in essence.

Just imagine my opinion of one of these secondhand smoke whiners when I am near their vehicle at a stoplight on my little 64cc trike and their goddamn H2 exhaust pipe is pointed right at my face the whole time.


-F

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Friday, November 9, 2007 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by Righteous9:
This isn't a matter of whether or not the man is in a position of persuation, it is about him turning a matter of science into a political debate,...


Yeah, isn't that Gore's job?

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Friday, November 9, 2007 11:22 PM

Whether your position is Global Warming is real or fake, whether you care for the environment or not you should check out this video:



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And if someday on some little piss-ant moon/My hand is a little too slow, or my aim a little bit off/At least I’ll go down fighting, not lying abed surrounded by quacks - "Sir Warrick" by Geezer

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Friday, November 9, 2007 11:24 PM


Oh bigdamnednobody...how cute you are.

I knew somebody was going to invoke Gore's name in this vain when I posted that, thought about preemtpively nipping it in the bud, then decided to let you look like an ass instead.

I don't believe in global warming because Gore says it. Gore is effective at bringing the issue into the limelight, and he is effective at giving the actual scientists a platform from which to be heard...

but its the overwhelming consensus of said scientists that I find fairly convincing. You can't see a difference here?


Gore has made a case for us to listen to the science on this subject, he hasn't snubbed it in the name of his own opinion. The facts he cited he didn't pull out of his ass...they came sourced and vetted. If the businessman meteorologist, climatologist coleman wants to be held in the same regard, he should do the same.

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RUE
Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:02 AM

"If the people want action on global warming, let them elect folks who'll act on it. I'm afraid that the "We must do something now!" crowd won't wait for that."

Yeah, they're gonna invoke the world government to come to the US with troops and set it all straight. Yuh-huh.


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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

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Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Righteous9:
Oh bigdamnednobody...how cute you are.
I knew somebody was going to invoke Gore's name in this vain when I posted that, thought about preemtpively nipping it in the bud, then decided to let you look like an ass instead.


What a great way to start off a discussion. Try to put me on the defensive before any meaningful exchange occurs. You do know what those emoticons are for don't you?
Quote:

Originally posted by Righteous9:
I don't believe in global warming because Gore says it. Gore is effective at bringing the issue into the limelight, and he is effective at giving the actual scientists a platform from which to be heard...
but its the overwhelming consensus of said scientists that I find fairly convincing. You can't see a difference here?


My point was about Gore politicizing something that should not be. Can you actually claim that Gore has no partisan agenda? Did you see his movie?
And Gore draws from the findings of the I.P.C.C. The same panel who went from people on the coasts needing to grow gills to people on the coasts maybe getting their toes wet.
Quote:

Originally posted by Righteous9:
Gore has made a case for us to listen to the science on this subject, he hasn't snubbed it in the name of his own opinion. The facts he cited he didn't pull out of his ass...they came sourced and vetted. If the businessman meteorologist, climatologist coleman wants to be held in the same regard, he should do the same.


Agreed. Let's not jump the gun and dismiss this guy's stance because it does not jib with yours after cursory inspection. It's not like this guy is Joe Blow crazy-talker on some street corner. He does know a thing or two about the Earth's climate.

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Saturday, November 10, 2007 1:06 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
"If the people want action on global warming, let them elect folks who'll act on it. I'm afraid that the "We must do something now!" crowd won't wait for that."

Yeah, they're gonna invoke the world government to come to the US with troops and set it all straight. Yuh-huh.



So who's gonna do it for you, Rue? Folk aren't gonna vote for it quick enough for you, if at all. You keep citing the UN's IPCC reports like they were scripture. Don't you think the UN or the EU will come and save you from the rising water?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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RUE
Saturday, November 10, 2007 2:16 AM

Have you been drinking again ?

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

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Saturday, November 10, 2007 2:30 AM

I read an article about the man made global warming myth, which stated that sun spots might be the real culprit to our current global warming. A basic understanding of what the article said was that the core of the sun was at a few million degrees Celsius or something like that, and the surface of the sun was only like a few hundred thousand degrees Celsius, and the atmosphere was a few million degrees, and they think that sun spots are the cause of this discrepancy. The article also said that during this planet’s last ice age there were only 50 sun spots during the entire time of the ice age while usually there are several thousand per year. (My memory of details is very fuzzy so please don’t quote me on any of the details)

This sounds somewhat plausible except how do scientists know how many sunspots happened during our last ice age? There are a few more things I would like to say, but I have to prepare my station for my closing. If I have internet access at home tomorrow, I will revisit this post then, but if not I will on Sunday Afternoon.


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