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Global Warming - Greatest scam in history !

POSTED BY: AURaptor
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Friday, November 9, 2007 6:57 PM

Salient point, Geeze - one reason I'd rather get it done before it comes to that, cause once the Gov gets involved it will devolve into the usual half baked counterproductive heavily politicized lunacy.. well, worse than it is already.

And no bailing out the Big Three when they refuse to face the music that there is indeed a strong demand for this kinda thing - if they refuse to meet the demand and someone else does, they deserve to take a financial beating over it.

One of the most popular Bio-D conversion vehicles around here are actually Volvos with the D5 Engine, but they're rather more expensive to maintain - couple D24's running around too, but those are getting a bit long in the tooth, and overhauling them is expensive and sucks.

The Volvo wagon is an especially popular beast with the local farmers, but most of em are kinda paranoiac about admitting it or allowing them to be examined.

-F

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Friday, November 9, 2007 7:11 PM

and in a court of law, both sides can find an expert witness who will say what they want him to say.

This isn't a matter of whether or not the man is in a position of persuation, it is about him turning a matter of science into a political debate, taking the position that people can be talked into looking at man-made global warming as alarmism, rather than bothering to prove it, or some part of it by actually doing the science, and getting the science published. I suppose he would be very much like an expert witness in a court of law, Hero, good analogy.

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Friday, November 9, 2007 7:18 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Didn't run away from anything, just started a new thread to show the latest development in the ongoing discussion that is global warming. As this was an entirely new story, I felt it needed its own thread. Why does that annoy you? Because I happened to use the headline for the thread title ? Hey, I didn't write the story, so don't get cranky at me.

If you think making two threads about the same subject so you can get "Global Warming is the greatest scam in history" above the discussion thread "Global Warming" is reasonable, it says a lot about your willingness to debate. The best place for this would have been in the thread already started on the subject.

As for not running away, you said:
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I'm really fucking tired of having this discussion over and over and over. I'm done w/ it. Y'all go play w/ yourselves.
Sounds very emotional wording to me. You lost your temper and scurried away because you couldn't back up your stance, then started a whole new thread that framed the debate the way you liked it. If you don't want to discuss this any more, why start a new thread on the subject? Undoubtedly it wasn't a lie, you don't want to discuss it any more, you just forgot the qualifier. You don't want to discuss it any more, you want everyone you disagree with to shut up and disappear. Like I said, I want to know the truth of the situation, I won't get that from someone too arrogant and disrespectful of other people to back up their own assertions, so from now on you can go ahead and rant at anyone who'll listen, I won't be one of them, and I urge anyone concerned with thinking for themselves to do the same.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Friday, November 9, 2007 7:50 PM

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"The Sun - it's that big firey thing up in the sky. But that's not important right now."
-John Lee, Pirate News



Global warming yes, man-made global warming no.

Global warming comes from the Sun, not a tailpipe or cow fart.

The entire Solar System is warming. This is normal. Then it will cool down. 1934 was hotter than now.

Global Warming = Global Tax + Global Genocide.

Not fun.

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Friday, November 9, 2007 7:59 PM

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Originally posted by piratenews:


The entire Solar System is warming.

Quick- what's the temperature on Pluto right now?

Are you saying the Sun is a little hotter now than 10 years ago? Seriously, that seems a little science-challenged to me.

But I do agree it is in large part natural. Our gases impact it's rate and longevity though IMO.

Chrisisall the scientist

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Friday, November 9, 2007 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by Righteous9:
When you pollute you are affecting all of those around you...and so infringing upon the rights of others...therefore you have no standing.



And the fact that you make this statement so blythely is the scary part to me.

Everyone pollutes. Every single one of us. Therefore we are all infringing on the rights of others and have no standing. So some bureaucracy gets to tell us where the line is between acceptable and too much. That'll determine what we can do, and what we can own, and how warm or cold we can be, and that we can't charcoal grill our food or have a fire in winter. Hey, we're all self-evidently guilty, just by being here.

There are many folk here who get all riled about possible government wire-tapping, which no one will ever know happened and will never cause any changes in most people's lives.

But these same folk don't mind giving up any control over major decisions in their, and everyone else's, lives to a probably supra-national bureaucracy they have no control over, and who may very well not have their best interests at heart.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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RUE
Friday, November 9, 2007 8:41 PM

Actually the government already determines what we can buy - try getting a car w/o seat belts, or lead paint for your house.

So a supra-national agency is going to run our lives ? Riiiight. B/c they can write US laws at all levels and enforce them. (note - sarcasm)

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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

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Friday, November 9, 2007 8:46 PM

dude, are you telling me there should be no lines drawn?

A matter of degrees is exactly what we are talking about...

you are not free to walk outside and shoot a gun down the street, pedestrians be damned. Balances have to be considered...all of us polluting is something that has to be balanced with everything else...but a chemical company doesn't have the right to dump their waste in the ocean to get rid of it; the sheer scale of the results of such dumping is damning.

and I've got news for you, without laws governing this shit, without regulations and bureocracy, that's exactly what they would do...should I add a "duh" to the end of this post?
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Here's another question to pose you...

is it okay for cities to outlaw fireworks? Are those kinds of laws off-limits to you because they infringe on somebody elses right to do as they choose? Is the police department that enforces said laws a capricious bureocratic authority in this matter, that has no business regulating these activities and arresting for them?

Should everybody else sit tight and have to hose down their roof's every fourth of july, maybe make a moat around their house, just so that everybody can enjoy the pretty lights and the cool bangs?


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Friday, November 9, 2007 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
So a supra-national agency is going to run our lives ? Riiiight. B/c they can write US laws at all levels and enforce them. (note - sarcasm)

"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."



So who else is gonna do what you want done about global warming? You don't trust business to do anything against their bottom line. You don't trust the US government to do anything against business. You don't trust the US electorate to make the sacrifices you know are necessary.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, November 9, 2007 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
You don't trust the US government to do anything against business. You don't trust the US electorate to make the sacrifices you know are necessary.


We are damned, Geez.

Gorram Chrisisall

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