Global Warming - Greatest scam in history !
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 16:27
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Originally posted by citizen:
"Greatest scam in history !"
Nice way to frame a debate. You lose your temper and run away from the last one, unable or unwilling to provide a logical rational argument for your stance, and instead start a new topic framed for confirmation bias. Personally I'm interested in the truth of the matter, not confirming my preconceptions, someone who won't even make they're case isn't going to be helpful in that regard.
Didn't run away from anything, just started a new thread to show the latest development in the ongoing discussion that is global warming. As this was an entirely new story, I felt it needed its own thread. Why does that annoy you? Because I happened to use the headline for the thread title ? Hey, I didn't write the story, so don't get cranky at me.
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Gore and his merry band of mindless followers, STILL REELING from their 2000 election defeat, have latched on to global warming with a religious fervor I haven't seen since, well yesterday in Iran, when hundreds of thousands of neaderthals chanted in unison death to America. Heck...it looked just like your typical weekend Liberal gathering in San Francisco.
Let's see...the last time the "Gore Camp" was so irrationally & emotionally stirred into an hysterical frenzy was back when Tipper took on the recording industry over foul language in the lyrics of songs. In those days, the so-called enlightened liberals just hated the Gores, but now they worship them. At last, they finally found an "issue" that appeals to all the haters of everything in America. Meanwhile, as Fat Boy w/ Little Brains tools around the country in his entourage of 747's & SUV's, he's using more gas and energy than everyone on the Planet, except maybe his blood-brother ally, the ultra feeble-minded & barely understandable RFK Jr. Hypocricy never has been both so blatantly transparent & ignored by the faithful...but what can you expect from the idol worshippers of the Sensei of the Insane?
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Quote:What Athonony and Frem said. I posted similar in the last thread on the topic; glad to see others post similar views.
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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But I must say, Anthony, you summed up MY position on the topic quite exactly, if something is a good idea in it's own right, who the hell needs some excuse to do it ?
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The big three might be telling you it can't be done, but try tellin that to maniac johnnie goodwin.
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/120/motorhead-messiah.html
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Can be done, will be done.
Get with the program, folks.
-Frem
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Personally, I blame the Bush administration for the global warming scam.
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Outside the whole "global warming, is it real?" thing, what strikes me is that the people on this forum who are so exercised about possible abuses to individual rights due to, say, wiretapping or the Patriot Act vis a vis the War on Terror see no problem with the massive increase in government regulation and invasive bureaucracy that would be needed to enforce all the differing proposals to reduce carbon emissions.
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Originally posted by Geezer:
Outside the whole "global warming, is it real?" thing, what strikes me is that the people on this forum who are so exercised about possible abuses to individual rights due to, say, wiretapping or the Patriot Act vis a vis the War on Terror see no problem with the massive increase in government regulation and invasive bureaucracy that would be needed to enforce all the differing proposals to reduce carbon emissions.
I was thinking the same thing myself after reading several of the most recent threads here in RWED.
Several Posters were referred to as 'jackbooted nazi's' and 'Alliance' for wanting the laws already on the books enforced. Now these same name callers want more government interference from gun control to global warming to telling people what the can and cannot put into their bodies. Who are really the 'Alliance' trying to meddle as opposed to the 'Independants' who simply want to be left alone to live their lives?
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'Rap bailing from one thread, after failing to provide documentation of his claims.... then starting a new thread with the same talking points, and still no documentation...
Hell, that alsmot never happens, right?
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Well no shit most of us lack the scientific grounding to talk about the actual science of it. When you lack that grounding, it only seems logical to defer to those who have it.
I don't agree that it doesn't matter whether or not global warming is manmade. The roadblock being put up on the other side of this issue is that it would be too costly and that it would severely impact our economy if we tried to do something about this today. They'd argue that we need more time for research and more time to study just the best way to go about any changes so that it doesn't hurt us adversly, which is all really just bullshit that means "lets take this off the table indefinitely," and they would use this logic under the cover of there being no crisis, and no reason to hurry on this matter.
And a lie is a fucking lie. It matters that the scientific consensus is being muddied. It matters that we hold science in such low regard in this country that anybody can write an article on a subject so complex and without any vetting, get equal or greater media attention for it, to uh, "balance" the "debate". You can't tell me that should be left alone, ignored, and allowed to continue to permeate the mindset of the American people on an issue of such importance.
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That being said, I've made the same argument to friends and family that antonyt has. It's a valid argument as to whether or not we should be doing something either way, but it doesn't adress the malfeasance and the consequences of said malfeasance, which frankly, needs attention also.
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Araptor, I think this Mister Coleman should do us all a favor then, take all of that research he did, take all of his accredidations, sit down and write a scientific paper. Then, he should have it peer reviewed and published in a journal, and then I may start to think that anything he has to say on the subject is anything but bullshit.
Hell, if he's got irrefutable evidence that man-made global warming is a hoax, as he says he does, he should do us all the biggest service ever perpetrated on mankind and do the actual leg work involved in disproving the evil scientists , wouldn't you think?
Seriously, when honest studies come out that put this issue into question, I'll pay attention to them.
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Bigdamnnobody and geezer...
I'm not sure how the issues equate. Generally the rule of thumb on civil rights is that your rights stop at the next person's nose, or something like that. When you pollute you are affecting all of those around you...and so infringing upon the rights of others...therefore you have no standing. It becomes a matter of who's rights are more valid...the right to clean air and a healthy planet, or the right to make money by destroying the planet.
And corporations aren't people and shouldn't have rights(though I believe they do), so as to any and all regulations involving them, it's not a rights issue at all.
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Originally posted by Righteous9:
So we want to take the word of a business man? I'm not exactly sure what your point is? He's read "dozens" of scientific papers, and he "knows" he's correct.
I"m not saying he's not an authority, but you tell us we should listen because he founded the weather channel?
I note for the record that John Coleman, founder of the Weather Channel, is a meteorologist, which is defined as a person who engages in an interdisciplinary study of the atmosphere that focuses on weather forecasting. He has over fifty years of experiance dating back to the early '50s.
In a court of law a man like this would easily qualify as an expert witness.
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