Remember, Remember...
POSTED BY: SergeantX
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 7, 2007 10:59
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Originally posted by SergeantX:
It's a great day to be a Ron Paul supporter.
Enjoy your day in the sun....in just a mere couple of months it'll all be over for him. Then we'll see who he throws his big support ( all 1 delegate ) to.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
...in just a mere couple of months it'll all be over for him.
Probably. Maybe sooner than that.
S'Okay, I'm used to the bad guys winning. But the good fight is still worth fighting.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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Quote:Amen.
Originally posted by SergeantX:
But the good fight is still worth fighting.
Firefly fans, of all people, should understand that.
Can't Take My Gorram Sky
Mal: May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.
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Originally posted by SergeantX:Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
...in just a mere couple of months it'll all be over for him.
Probably. Maybe sooner than that.
S'Okay, I'm used to the bad guys winning. But the good fight is still worth fighting.
SergeantX
Look, you have every right to select your horse and root for him (or her). I personally think the whole Primary concept is flawed, and a lousy way to choose party candidates. It is sooooo heavily geared for the "moneyed" front-runner that an "independently" willed candidate just doesn't have any chance. The "big boys" always prevail. Hell...back in 1999 or so who the heck heard of or wanted Bush? Answer : NO ONE....But we got him....why? The Big-monied Republican machine chose him to run against Gore. I heard him a few times in Iowa and knew from that second that he was retarded, and had built his political career on his daddy's name & accomplishments. Quite frankly, his ultimate nomination at the Convention was a real embarrassment for me and many others. But...what did the Dems offer?....Gore was a leftover legacy of bad-boy Bill, and the guy was a super stiff on TV. Fast forward...8 years...look at the field of candidates from both sides....the "front-runners" of both parties are almost exactly the same...not really much choice there. I'd almost like to see a dark horse somehow manipulate his way through the primaries and somehow collect enough delegates to be a viable candidate. Ron Paul could be that guy, but beyond his "internet-base" of loyalists, he has no other meaningful support, and therefore is doomed to drop out very soon.
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Originally posted by canttakesky:
Firefly fans, of all people, should understand that.
Ayup. Every time I hear Ron Paul dicuss his foreign policy I think of young River's quote in Serenity:
"We meddle... People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads, and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome."
At least we're getting some good press for a change. The media loves the smell of money. This one's quite good:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=3826332&page=1
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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I just watch the first fifteen minutes of ABC Evening news. The entire first segment was on the presidential race. They were talking about how the Republicans were in trouble in key states due to voter dissatisfaction. They specifically cited Nevada, where Ron Paul won a straw poll just a few weeks ago.
All through the segment not one mention of Ron Paul's record breaking fund raising. The most painful part - they interviewed a disgruntled Republican voter who said "I just wish there was a Republican who will tell me that they're going to end this war. The silence was deafening. And sickening. And, as much as I encourage people not to talk in terms of conspiracy, there's no way this wasn't a deliberate omission.
From that they went into a segment discussing how Pakistan has closed down all the independent media... irony much?
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Umm, you DO realize someone has to pay for all this insanity, right ?
By not raising taxes, politicians of today are simply eyeballing your children (who might I note, cannot vote yet) with the intent of dumping this massive crushing debt on THEM.
You wanna talk about taxation without representation, there it is in spades - they did not ask for it, could not vote against it, and paying that monster debt down will financially cripple and destroy many of em.
And you wonder why they hate us....
-Frem
Having grown up with stagflation, and economists predicting that I would be paying for it, and my descendants, for over 100 years, yet during the 90's most of it disappeared, I would be leary of believing that.
The whole point of the presidency is to draw attention from the real power - congress. They are the onese who make the laws, who vote the laws in, and who decide what is what. The president suggests, but can't even submit his own bill. I don't care for any of the candidates - self absorbed power seekers- because in the long run it doesn't matter. When we can get a person who actually BELIEVES in helping the nation not himself, then we will finally have a candidate worth looking at.
"It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain
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Originally posted by gorramgroupie:
I don't care for any of the candidates - self absorbed power seekers- because in the long run it doesn't matter. When we can get a person who actually BELIEVES in helping the nation not himself, then we will finally have a candidate worth looking at.
Have you looked at RP at all? I can imagine all kinds of ways you might criticize him, but "self-absorbed power seeker" he aint.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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Allow me to point out that up till recently, we were STILL paying for the fuckin spanish-american war via a "temporary" tax on phone lines.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060526-6928.html
How many generations got boned by that one, including mine ?
Shit, contrary to the snarkily expressed opinions of my friends, I wasn't even ALIVE back in 1898, much less in any position to vote against it.
How many folks too young to vote at the time, are now stuck with some degree of the tax bill for the savings and loan bailout of 1985 ?
Or paying into the social security slush fund, which I damnwell guarantee you THEY will never see a dime of when they're old enough to call in the marker...
Meanwhile this generation lives on the rabid consumerism and deficit-spending, deferring the financial bite onto folks too young to stand up and be counted.
I found it offensive when I entered the workforce when the sheer size of the tax bite from the previous two generations started to hit me, and I am STILL taking home less than 65% of my income, not including sales tax, property tax, utility taxes, taxes taxes and more gorram taxes all to pay for shit done long before I had any say in it.
Be damned if I wanna do that to my nieces, and pardon my lack of respect for the elderly, but when I look at the folk who are responsible, directly or indirectly, I wanna get em by the goddamn throat and SQUEEZE the fucking money, if not the very life, out of them.
You think I was kidding that "They hate us" - I myself have felt that hate, and when these teens start to realize just how badly we're fucking them over, the mess we're gonna hand to THEM to deal with when most of us are retired or taking the dirt nap, you better believe they're not much gonna thank us for it.
And a direct quote from my niece to all of us, relative -
"Spend your own damned money, instead of mine before I even have it!"
That thrown at me the day her civic class discovered what the Federal Deficit was.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Really? Smashing year, September was a bit warm though. You'd have liked it, especially in your line of work. Cabbies in London would charge 1s 6d for a fair from Euston to Marble Arch and 2s for a trip from Reagents Park to Victoria. That was a pretty good fair. There were upwards of 11,000 cabs with 20,000 horses -- that's enough sh*t to keep even PN happy!
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