Heroes 2.1 (or wherever...)

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STORYMARK

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:50 PM

I'm becoming more and more frustrated with this season. The Hiro in Japan storyline has been extremely predisctable, we've seen "evil" Noah before, some characters are becoming inexplicably stupid, and now we're getting flash-forwards to a New York that's been destroyed - again, conveinently timed around the end of the end of the current season - as if that wasn't the thrust of last season.

I was willing to cut some slack with the first few episodes... but it just keeps going nowhere but places they've already been. I'm really hoping things get better very quick, or I'm going to loose interest.

And what happened to the "4 months ago" episode that was supposed to explain what happened between seasons? When the season started, they said it'd be the 4th or 5th episode, yet nada.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

STORYMARK

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:50 PM

Oops, double post.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
The Hiro in Japan storyline has been extremely predictable, we've seen "evil" Noah before, some characters are becoming inexplicably stupid, and now we're getting flash-forwards to a New York that's been destroyed - again, conveniently timed around the end of the end of the current season - as if that wasn't the thrust of last season.

Yeah...the first three eps had me goin', but I wanna see something new also.

GrrrrrrChrisisall

SINGATE

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
we're getting flash-forwards to a New York that's been destroyed - again, conveinently timed around the end of the end of the current season - as if that wasn't the thrust of last season.

I thought of something right after I posted with regards to last season. Isn't it odd that Linderman was trying to ply Nathan by stating that .07% is an acceptable loss and now we are being shown a 93% loss of population due to this new threat. I realize it doesn't add up to 100% because of one decimal place but it is an odd coincedence. Perhaps Linderman and Co. had foreknowledge of this disaster and believed by allowing New York to be destroyed that an even greater future loss would be averted. That old Trek addage comes to mind "the needs of the many outway the needs of the few".

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PDCHARLES

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:07 PM

Last two comments kinda continue the "meh" sentiment from some about this season's storyline. I’ll be on board for the long haul.

My feeling, they dug themselves a hole with way-too-powerful peeps and are trying to get out of it. Separating a lot of the characters, cuz u can’t have a super-powered showdown every week.

I can see some of what ur talkin' about. Would anyone like to explore the "other" options you would have liked to see. I am NOT asking in defense of this show. I am still surprised there is a network TV drama I actually watch. I know u guys have some good sci-fi brains. Just like to pick at it.

Hiro's storyline: too predictable, agree somewhat. Pretty much knew he would prolly gain the love of the girl. didn't see healing boy coming into the mix. Here, the story coulda stayed the same, but with more Hiro ninja-like action. I kinda expected it from the first time we saw future Hiro in the subway.

Noah storyline: we've seen him bad before. Well, there is only good and bad. Not sure what they could have done here. Still some mystery behind it. I like it, he just makes a better bad guy.

Who's stupid? I always thought Claire was too smart last season. Or handled tragedy like a seasoned pro. Her storyline is just destined for cheese, IMO. I just accept it.

Saving the world is hard to top. Save the universe? But, New York again? A convenient on-location thing prolly. They coulda tweaked it a lil, but this tragedy seems worse. If they don't have a world saving task, more woulda complained that there was no build up to a "big bang" finale like last season.

They saw a formula that worked. I just think they need to put it in the mixer a bit.

EDIT: Nice point Sin. Didn't see your post til now. I was writing bewteen work stuff and didn't 'fresh.

DEEPGIRL187

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:21 PM

What's with the Noah bashing? He hasn't changed one iota from last season. He's still doing what he set out to do: protect his family at all costs. And if that means knocking a few people off here and there, so be it. Hell, I was cheering him on yesterday (sadistic? who, me? )

I'll admit, I didn't like Noah at first. But when I came to understand the motives for his actions, I developed an appreciation for his character. Noah isn't meant to be a cheerful or even moral character. He literally is the gray area.

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STORYMARK

Thursday, November 1, 2007 4:20 AM

It seems NBC has cancelled the Heroes: Origins min spin-off that was supposed to air durring the main series' mid-season hiatus.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

DEEPGIRL187

Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:12 AM

Why does it all have to be Hiro's fault? Couldn't it be one of the characters I don't like?

I knew Kensei was going to show up eventually. I do still wonder if Claire's a descendant of his, though. It would make a lot of sense.

Bob mentioned that Matt could control anything the human brain can. That opens up a lot of possibilities. His power is going to get really interesting.

And speaking of Bob, Mohinder's turning out to be a real dumbass this season. One boneheaded decision after another. On the other hand, Noah may not be all that reliable. Last season there's no way he would have been as sloppy as he's being now. And that whole thing with Claire was a powder keg waiting to happen. I'm surprised it didn't before now.

The promo for next week looks to answer a lot of pressing questions. The one I'm most concerned with is what the Haitian had to do with Peter's memory wipe, specifically who he did it for. You never know who's side that guy is on. And did Nathan's face actually get mangled in the blast? If so, who fixed it?

Things are going to go really wrong this season. It's just a question of how much.

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SINGATE

Tuesday, November 6, 2007 6:32 AM

Well this episode redeemed one of my earlier predictions so that made me happy. I had a weird feeling that it was Kensei who was killing the older heroes. The introduction of Matt's father with his mental abilities threw a wrench into the works; I figured he was the one pulling the strings. Speaking of Matt I really liked him stepping up the plate and shutting down his father.

I am a bit confused about Kensei, or should I say, Adam's motives. He stated that he would make Hiro suffer. I understand him killing Mr. Nakamura but becomming an evil mastermind because he was betrayed is a bit of a stretch. Clearly he can't be thrilled with the dark turn of events in the future so I do believe he does want to make it better, most notably for himself.

The shit is really piling up around Mohinder. The sad thing is he wants to do the right thing. Unfortunately, as he said, he doesn't know what that is or who to trust. The real question is can he become morally grey enough to do a bad thing for the greater good? Namely killing Noah when he refuses to turn Claire over.

The following is a sidenote concerning tonight's broadcast. Did anyone else record the show on an HD DVR? The reason I ask is because during playback at the 41 minute mark the audio went out and never came back. More precisely, the sound effects and music were audible but the dialogue wasn't there. Oddly enough the sound was fine during commericials. I had to rewind and watch with the captions on. Did this happen to anyone else or am I just lucky?

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BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, November 6, 2007 1:09 PM

Well, I was surprised to see that Adam is Kensei. Does cellular regeneration make them immortal as well? Because if it doesn't Kensei looks really good for a guy who is hundreds of years old. It does make sense that he is the one killing off the others now and explains how he survived the fall from the rooftop when he killed Hiro's dad. I don't think he wants the world destroyed, but who can say for sure. The man obviously holds a grudge for a very long time.

Shiny to see Matt developing his powers. Saving Molly and trapping his father in his own nightmare was cool. I hope he continues to develop as a character.

Hiro certainly seems to be coming into his own as well. Watching how he handled Kensei in their sword duel in the tent was great. His faith in Kensei and giving him every chance to renounce his path of revenge and become a hero was touching, if not a bit naive. Still, should be really interesting to see what happens when these two come face to face in the present.

What is Adam's agenda and how is he using Peter to make it happen. I hope Peter breaks free of Adam's hold before things get too bad.

So, Nikki now has the virus? How did it mutate? Mohinder's blood no longer is a cure? Could be the beginning of the plague we saw in the future that Peter stumbled into.

Good to see Peter starting to get his memories back. Also seeing that the Company had him confirms my suspicions. The clip from next weeks show that showed the Haitian shooting a shirtless Peter and tossing him into the ocean container also confirms my suspicion that the Haitian may have something to do with the memory loss Peter is suffering.

What happened to Caitlin? She is now trapped in the future? What happens if they avert the plague and that future is erased? Is she gone?

I really do love this show.

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