Joss' New Series
POSTED BY: FollowMal
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 6, 2007 07:51
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*Crying tears of joy*
Honestly I am so happy I keep thinking this is some sort of trick.
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the theme sounds stupid ... but he will probably manage to make it great.
I just hope he leaves some time to do the 2nd BDM!
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Soounds like a blend of The Island, Momento, Identity, and Total Recall (err, The Warehouse?), Jason Bourne.
Another female lead, maybe a kick-butt Operative they had to retire. Maybe she'll remember some of her "assignments" such as assasin and kick major behind - sounds kinda Whedonesque.
Did you see that part where he mentions "all these films" that he's working on?? Ehh???
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THis show sounds cool but OMFG its on FOX (or FUX should I say) and only scheduled for 7 episodes means that if it gets poor rating they won't make the rest of the series.
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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
sounds kinda Whedonesque.
First saw the title of this thread and thought, "I'd put money on that there's a female lead." Yup. Read the first posted article. Yup, "Whedonesque."
I have a feeling that this "burgeoning self-awareness" is going to start allowing her to keep skills, etc from her imprinted personalities and in the end allow her to be a master martial artist, weapons expert, expert in seduction, etc. Then we'll end up with a River sort of Buffy, but in a different futuristic sort of way. Perhaps in a realistic way, but in that direction none-the-less.
Oh well. At least, if done properly, Eliza Dushku will be able to show what kind of roles that she could possibly do in the future through this different personalities.
But, didn't Joss say that he'd NEVER work with F*X again? Ya, he did.
Didn't F*X do, "But the fact is, it was also somebody saying we trust that you can tell this story, and we love this story, so go and tell it. That's a damn boat of confidence."before and then it went away? *coughwonderfallscough*
I'll watch the first ep, but I have serious reservations about this. Not only because it's likely those 7 eps are the only ones that'll be made, not only because at a high level it's the same "poor girl now kick ass girl" stuff Joss does, but there is serious potential to completely fuck this up. It seems to me, that a plot line like this treads dangerously close to the bad cheesy/preching/corny/etc line.
We'll see... maybe... if F*X gets it out the door...
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Ok, you all are missing something REALLY important about this.
When someone pitches a network a show, they buy a pilot. When they see the pilot, they decide whether or not to make the show. That's how it ALWAYS. WORKS.
He pitched this show to Fox, and they *immediately*, *WITHIN A WEEK*, gave him seven episodes. Not one, but SEVEN. Without ever seeing a Pilot; heck, without ever seeing a script.
This is a vote of confidence that's extremely unusual, and entirely unprecedented in anything Joss or Tim has ever worked on in the past. Deals this big never happen, and they NEVER happen this quickly. This "just seven episodes" thing is an unbelievably good sign, not a bad one. They wouldn't buy seven episodes if they didn't think this show was going to be a huge success. A full season buy without seeing a single script is something that has never happened to any show ever in the history of time; you all are acting like, since that didn't happen, then we're doomed to only seeing seven episodes. That is so completely not the case.
I, in fact, would say that at this point there is literally nothing more that Fox could do to show its belief and confidence in this project, nothing whatsoever.
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Can you tell I was excited? I started another thread on this subject without checking first.
I don't know whether I'm thrilled or scared...could it be a trick for Halloween? Plus, even if it's for real, it's FOX--who has given us more than enough reason to be afraid.
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joins in the excitement = staggers bemusedly - jumps up and down - grins..
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You know..Id hate to be the wet blanket on this...
I am completely and utterly pissed off.
Has anyone read the damn summary of the series??
Its bloody River all over!!
Girls that are 'implanted', the main lead trying to piece together her life and fight against the evil coporation that has taken advantage of her talents?? Are you KIDDING ME!??
Its Joss Whedon...taking his best River stories and putting a new spin on them. Completely killing off any hope we had for a return of our favourite browncoats.
This is officially the end of firefly/Serenity for mine..
I almost feel a little betrayed...Good luck to Joss on his new show..I wish him the best of luck crawling back to the network that treated him like garbage last time.
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Originally posted by Jadehand:
Well crap. That sucks.... I think I just died.
Er... Why?
Anyways. GOD FUCKING DAMMIT WHY F*X??????!?!?!?!?!?!? Seriously??? I know they're "really excited" and "showed a lot of confidence", but they've done that with lots of other shows and still canned them. Drive. Wonderfalls. Dark Angel. Lots of stuff. Not only is F*x close-minded and terrible at business ("Hurr hurr, we didn't advertise our new show, it's not doing well, must be 'cause it isn't good. Let's not show it anymore. Oh a new show. People will watch if they don't know about it! Hurr."), they are also SERIOUSLY ADHD with their shows. It took a grand total of 8 days before F*x decided that Drive had had enough of a chance.
So, no. I don't care if they've order seven episodes already. They're going to get bored with it after the first two, and I'm pretty damn disappointed in Joss for lining up for a beating. Seriously shooting himself in the foot when there are so many other networks out there.
EDIT: Hey, to BRINGITBACK - I disagree. It kinda - ish - maybe - is a bit like River, but Joss is far too creative to be limited to something like that. Plus, Firefly is his baby that he is still holding out hope for. If he ever tells more of River's story, it'll be in the Firefly 'verse. He might be acting like he's desperate for a network, but he isn't desperate for ideas and stories. This is something different. Plus - wow, that's a very general way of describing it. There are LOTS of different ways that what you just said about "Girls that are 'implanted', the main lead trying to piece together her life and fight against the evil coporation that has taken advantage of her talents?? Are you KIDDING ME!??" That's a very, very, vague description that can be taken in many directions, and it's kind of like saying, "Sheesh, this is JUST LIKE THIS OTHER SHOW, where the girl meets the boy, but has this problem with dating the boy because she is actually an alien, but the boy doesn't care, and they risk everything to be together while hiding her secret". That's just too vague to say, "They're exactly alike! SELLOUT! COPYCAT! BOO!" I mean, really. No. Also? Firefly and Serenity is about so much more than River, and the 'verse is so much more different than the premise for Dollhouse, I really can't see much of a connection between the two. So try not to feel betrayed. Just be pissed that Joss is naive enough to go back to F*x.
And honestly, there are three things that could happen:
1. F*x screws Dollhouse over and Joss has more time for Firefly and Serenity, because Universe understands that in order to have a successful show, you must have ADVERTISING and MORE THAN EIGHT DAYS.
2. F*x screws Dollhouse over and Joss is seen as a crappy producer and writer and we never hear from him again.
3. Dollhouse manages to survive F*x's blundering and idiocy and makes Joss more popular. Universal decides to make a sequel, basking in the glow of the recent attention.
I doubt 2 can happen, since Joss has had projects killed and it hasn't killed his career.
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