Serenity VS. Star Wars Ep. III??

POSTED BY: arcbeatle
UPDATED: Monday, July 12, 2004 02:42
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ZOID

Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:17 PM

Diego wrote:

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I dunno, Zoid. That advise doesn't apply to geek chicks. My present girlfriend likes it.

zoid smiles and pokes you in the arm...

What? You don't have to blow her up, do you?

Annoyingly,

zoid
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DIEGO

Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:41 PM

What? You don't have to blow her up, do you?
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Only when she asks me to. ;) And no, she is NOT made of plastic, Zoid.

Diego

LTNOWIS

Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:55 AM

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I'm looking forward to Episode 3. I liked Episode 2. After several more watchings I'm beginning to accept Episode 1.

I'm glad I'm not the only person over the age of 12 to like those movies.

I'm definiatly gonna see Episode 3, even if it has absolutely no plot. Hopefully it'll include all of the historical stuff I'm interested in as a geek, and nothing that actively annoys me. I probably won't see it more than once, and I'll probably buy it on VHS at a yard sale instead of the super-platinum collector's DVD set. Of course, I'll probably see Serenity multiple times, and buy several DVDs.

I always imagined the movie would come out in the September-November timeframe. Not that I want to wait longer, but all the summer thrillers would be out of theaters, and people would be ready for intellegent characters and diaglogue.

SOUTHERNMERC

Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:26 PM

You're not the only one, but there were too many things in Ep. 1 that made me cringe to like it TOO much. And Ep. 2 only got rolling after OWK went to the cloning planet (can't recall the name). I like the Gungan race, as a whole they are a cool alien species, but as I have said many times, the film would have been improved greatly with a 10 minute scene of the slow, agonized, tortured death of Jar-Jar Binks. I enjoyed the two prequels on certain levels, and I will watch the third hoping it doesn't suck lemur testicles, but "Serenity" I shall watch endlessly. I hope it is given some time between release and Ep. 3.

Jayne: "How big a room?"

POETIC4U

Saturday, July 10, 2004 4:12 PM

I find it oddly creepifying to read that a lot of us were so close to projecting when "Serenity" would be released... and now that we know for certain that April 22, 2005 is the release date, I think the decision was the right one.

Nadia

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- Herbert Clark Hoover

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POPEBOB

Saturday, July 10, 2004 4:52 PM

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Originally posted by embers:
well personally I won't be standing in line for episode III of Star Wars! I was disappointed w/episode I, but episode II was a complete rip-off, I felt I should have had my money back...

so no way am I thinking of throwing good money after bad by bothering to see Star Wars III in any theater (and I don't think I'm alone in my disgust, I don't think he'll make the first week $ on this one that he has in the past).

In fact I think there should be an online campaign to get people to go to Serenity instead!

Make it clear that we actually want good writing and developed characters, and jokes that are funny!

All things Considered....

Ep. I : poorly Written but good story and beautiful visuals.

Ep. II : Better written, not quite as good a story, INCREDIBLY beautiful visuals.

Ep. III? : if it follows the trend.. Decent writing, poor story, Visuals that will burn themselves into the back of your retina.

now with all that said. I love Starwars and i always will. Empire was the first movie i EVER saw. The new breed of SW is in no way to be compared to the classics. But they have thier niceties and imo should not be bashed on so hard, their good out weighs their bad.

Empire held its spot as my favorite all time movie for 23 years. If you were to ask me today which would i rather watch on a whim, Firefly (any given episode) or Empire? My answer would be firefly. If this trend continues Serenity may replace it altogether.

But dont give up on SW just because its new incarnations are but a mere shadow. In all honesty, they were an incredibly Tough act to follow.

"Crime and Politics, little girl. The situation is always...Fluid."
"The only fluid I see is the puddle of piss, refusin' to pay us our wage." -Badger and Jayne , 'Serenity'

KOHAN

Saturday, July 10, 2004 6:55 PM

I hate to say this, but I think ep. III just might do better then we think it would. maybe the reason for the first two films to be as is is so that when ep. III comes out, it could be the most mediocre movie and fans would still worship it.

you really think that starwars would end up like back to the future? hmm... bad example, err... startrek movies? wait.. superman series? batman series? gorrammit.... think!!! the matrix series?

okay, nevermind... starwars ep. III is going to blow and there no saving it. That doesn't mean I'm not going to watch it. (I'm a sucker for marketing) But Serenity better get some marketing under it's belt, or history will be likely to repeat itself.

no matter how cool a lightsaber is, I think I'm at heart a browncoat before I am a Jedi.

of course I can always be a jedi wearing a browncoat.....

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JAKE7

Saturday, July 10, 2004 7:51 PM

I'm a Star Wars fan; I'll be seeing episode III opening weekend I'm sure, but I doubt I'll see it multiple times at the theater, unless it's **really** cool. I will probably see it twice, once with my geeky (did *I* say that?) Star Wars friends and once with my nephew.

I'll be seeing Serenity opening night and many more times (as much as I can arrange, probably on Friday nights) because I want it to do well and I'm SURE I'll be wanting to see it over and over!!! I'm sure I'll be dragging friends and family to it...

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BARCLAY

Saturday, July 10, 2004 9:03 PM

I was a huge fan of the original Star Wars. So naturally, I went and saw Episode I, and was mildly dissapointed. Then I saw Episode II, once... and never will again. I refuse to go see Episode III. I have no interest in it at all.

Which is the pure antithesis of my feelings towards Serenity. I'm pumped up for this movie, I can't wait to see it, over and over again.

So, I like the idea of "fighttheforce.com." Encourage people not to see SWEp3 based on the merits of it no longer being an engaging story, when it gets closer to the release date, put up the negative reviews, and sign people up pledging to not go see it (and perhaps another list to not go see it again). Suggest a list of alternatives that include, but is not limited to, Serenity.

Also, we browncoats should mobilize to go see Serenity en masse the weekend SWEp 3 opens. For example, suggest delaying a second viewing of Serenity until Star Wars' opening weekend. If we're successful enough, we might even trump Star Wars in a head to head matchup. Wouldn't that be shiny?

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SLAYTHIS

Saturday, July 10, 2004 9:07 PM

The release dates are actually closer to being one month apart, and although a month may not seem like much, it is enough time that the two movies will not be directly competing for box office dollars, and financially, both films will be successful. The biggest difference between the movies is that one of them has the potential to effectively launch a franchise while the other has the potential to effectively lay a franchise to rest.
Serenity will likely have an opening weekend that, although not necessarily record-breaking, will be great enough to easily convince Universal to greenlight a sequel. After that, between fan buzz and positive reviews (yes - positive reviews. Joss has been given full reign which should quell any concerns that this film will succumb to Hollywoodization, and any educated film critic will recognize the blessing of a sci-fi action flick in which the spectacle of the movie, however magnificent it may be, does not supercede the plight and dynamic of its truly original characters,) the fan-base will most likely expand, and this will cause the B.O. receipts to not dwindle quite as rapidly as with other movies as the converts will continue to trickle in. The current fan base is truly phenomenal considering the opportunities given the show's survival by Fox, but there are still a large number of people who will be introduced to Firefly by happening upon a Serenity trailer before a movie, and keep in mind that good trailers can persuade somebody to give a movie a try. Plus there are all the folks who are being told to check out the best TV series they've never seen. For some, the release of the movie may be the push they need. Serenity will have a good box office run; it's sequel will have an even better run.
Star Wars will also have a good run - perhaps even a better run than Serenity, given the expanse of it’s fandom over the past 25 years, which, as hard as some people may try to resist, is still enduring. It won't break any records, including its own. The prequels have turned off more fans than they have engaged. A lot of people will see it, though they will have widely varying reactions, unlike Serenity, which will be largely enjoyed by most of its audience. A significant difference, though, is that people who had not necessarily planned on seeing Star Wars will not have their minds changed by the reviews or the buzz or the trailers. And although it is certainly established enough to draw in a huge crowd, nobody will demand that Lucas make another one. Nobody will miss new Star Wars movies, but the ever-increasing Browncoats will crave more offerings from Joss.

That's my peace. Please forgive me if this was long-winded, I'm a relative newb to internet forums; I just love Firefly too much to not get in on the action.

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