Lack of denim in the future

POSTED BY: blackbeanie
UPDATED: Saturday, October 27, 2007 13:20
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BLACKBEANIE

Friday, October 26, 2007 6:28 AM

It occurred to me recently that I can't remember seeing a scrap of denim in Firefly or Serenity.

Is it possible some sort of plague wiped out this beloved material? Or am I blind?
Or is some ploy by Joss to confuse people who think too much like me?

DARKFLY

Friday, October 26, 2007 8:11 AM

Your right I can't remember anybody wearing any either. Maybe Levi went bankrupt at some point.

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, October 26, 2007 8:18 AM

Originally crafted from canvas, denim was the cheaper, more durable than finery clothing for worker types. Miners and hard surface workers an such.
The verse seems to be kinda westernish, and most outfits seem to be leather like. Kaylee would have the most need for durable cloth - what is her outfit made of, the coveralls - isn't that a color of denim?
Otherwise the comfort level in space would need to be bearable, and important - lots of more comfy clothing compared to denim, and with adjustable gravity, the wear factor could be less, thus allowing less durable cloth. Maybe just the ground-bound denizens with non-adjustable gravity use denim.
Just my .02

SICKDUDE

Friday, October 26, 2007 4:42 PM

Denim is not that good of a material for people in the wilderness. It gets wet easily, it stays wet a long time. While it is durable, other cottons and even wool are better choices.

My two cents as well.....

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CHARLOTTE

Friday, October 26, 2007 5:11 PM

I may be misremembering but I think Mr. Universe wore jeans.

SUASOR

Friday, October 26, 2007 5:21 PM

And look what happened to him...

BLACKBEANIE

Friday, October 26, 2007 5:27 PM

Now that you mention it... I think he did.
*Goes and checks*
Yes, he did. Thank you

There you go, no plague.

MRBLUESUN

Friday, October 26, 2007 5:35 PM

Sorry are we trying to establish a link between the wearing of denim and death?

I may wear brown, but theres a little purple mixed in there too.

DEEPLYKIDDING

Friday, October 26, 2007 6:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by blackbeanie:
It occurred to me recently that I can't remember seeing a scrap of denim in Firefly or Serenity.

Is it possible some sort of plague wiped out this beloved material? Or am I blind?
Or is some ploy by Joss to confuse people who think too much like me?

What most people think of when they hear denim is a pair of jeans. The traditional fabric is a twill weave (diagonal ridges) with white cotton threads in one direction and indigo-dyed (blue) cotton threads in the other direction. In its "dry" form, denim is VERY dark blue, but we mostly see it nowadays with a wash, sandblasting, or other treatment to fade the color in various ways.

Also keep in mind that denim, as we think of it, has been around only about 200 years or so (late 18th century), and its popularity has changed dramatically over those years. Originally thought of as a workhorse fabric, it was not looked upon favorably by the fashionable. Its only in more recent decades that it has become a trendy fabric.

That being said, I suspect that the cotton plant could still be used in the Firefly 'verse (carried by ships that left Earth-That-Was) and planted & harvested on terraformed planets. They obviously had other Earth-That-Was plants (trees, grasses, food-stuffs, etc). Even if cotton was not transported, other materials, even man-made (possibly ones not created yet in our time) could have been used in the manufacture of "denim" type fabrics.

Also, the *type* of weave (twill) could still be produced in that 'verse (as we see many other types of woven materials in the show).

Plus, there's no reason to think that the future 'verse could not reproduce the color created by indigo (plant) dyes, with or without the actual plant.

So, why no obvious use of denim? Maybe its the current trend in the 'verse, or at least in the border planets, to not use that fiber, fabric or color. Plus, with the future, maybe there are so many new types of fabrics & fibers that denim has become obsolete.

But, obviously, this is all just speculation on my part. Mabye it was an intentional ploy by Joss to put a bug in your brain so that you couldn't stop obsessing about Firefly & Serenity. I know he did it to me with other props & techniques, hence my irrational obsession with this 'verse!

Thanks for starting the thread - fun topic for me!

I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass...

WASHNWEAR

Friday, October 26, 2007 9:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DeeplyKidding:
That being said, I suspect that the cotton plant could still be used in the Firefly 'verse...

"Plant"?..."plant"!? Well, crap - there goes my theory. I figured that - having left behind the denim-mines-that-were on Earth-that-was and having failed to find any denim-mines-that-are in the hyperthyroidal-solar-system-that-is - denim in the future-that-will-be had sort of gone the way of the dinosaur and the S&H Green Stamp.

Man... this has been one gorram long week...

It was awash in fatigue poisons when we got here!

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