Why isn't Hillary in jail ?
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Friday, November 2, 2007 19:47
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Why isn't Bush in jail ?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/washington/25rice.html?ref=americas
WASHINGTON, Oct. 24 (Reuters) — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice admitted Wednesday that the United States had mishandled the case of a Canadian who was deported to Syria and who has said he was tortured there, but she stopped short of an apology.
Maher Arar, (who) was arrested during a stopover in New York in 2002 and deported to Syria, where he has said he was tortured and imprisoned for a year.
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You know, the Clintons have been accused (mostly falsely, I might add) of many things. But torture wasn't one of them. You Bushites are funny people.
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Originally posted by jarhead:
Do yourselves a favor next time you vote. Come this November find a name that doesn't say "incumbent", and make your mark accordingly. Don't worry about whether they can win, don't worry about their party affiliation, just vote against whoever it is that currently has whatever office is up for grabs.
Great campaign slogan: " Throw the rascals out!
( Throw NEW rascals in.)"
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Originally posted by rue:
Why isn't Bush in jail ?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/25/washington/25rice.html?ref=americas
WASHINGTON, Oct. 24 (Reuters) — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice admitted Wednesday that the United States had mishandled the case of a Canadian who was deported to Syria and who has said he was tortured there, but she stopped short of an apology.
Maher Arar, (who) was arrested during a stopover in New York in 2002 and deported to Syria, where he has said he was tortured and imprisoned for a year.
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You know, the Clintons have been accused (mostly falsely, I might add) of many things. But torture wasn't one of them. You Bushites are funny people.
Bush never was acused of torture, so your piont is moot. Nice try though.
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by rue:
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You know, the Clintons have been accused (mostly falsely, I might add) of many things. But torture wasn't one of them. You Bushites are funny people.
I really can't grasp the absolute and total hatred of George W. Bush. When everything is tallied up and the historians are trying to sum up his presidency in a hundred years, the exact wording will be something like "Meh," coupled with a shrug of the shoulders. The man has hardly done anything - good or bad. He's a nothing, just like his father minus the ability to string together a complete sentence. And just like every man to have his job since at least FDR, he's been pushing just a little farther to see how much power we'd let him take. Bush Jr. is just the latest in a long line of corrupt corporate servants slowly building America into a place where what you don't pay in taxes gets sucked up by basic living expenses, and all of that money goes to a hundred different subsidiaries of one parent multi-national mega-corp.
Billy Jeff Clin-tong? You mean you think that there's something the southern politician is accused of that he didn't do? Are you deficient?
Bush I? First person of any stature to use the phrase "New World Order". If that doesn't scare you I know you're deficient. In addition he's connected up the ass to the Saudi royal family, and he's a former CIA head, all of which leads me to conclude that he's one of the most corrupt SOB's to ever hold the office - and we'll never find out about any of it.
Regean? Actor in the role of a lifetime. His arms race broke the back of the Soviet Union - and began America down a road of such massive debt that it would not surprise me to learn that we actually cannot make even the minimum payments. But hey no worries, After all, that land seized for Federal parks/wetlands/etc. during last few decades? Most of which has minerals worth mining? I'm sure that was for ecological reasons and not to use the mining rights as collateral for debts that we won't be able to pay. And if that wasn't bad enough, the policies that sent corporate America's earnings through the roof during the '80s have lead to the globalism which is getting ready to bankrupt us due to the loss of the American manufacturing sector. Cheers.
Carter? Another "Meh."
And so on. So yeah, you hate GW all you want, but if I were you I'd critically examine my own beliefs to see if I was missing the forest for the trees.
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You know, a lot of you should just start prefacing every single post of any kind with..
"But Clinton...."
It would save a lotta time and typing. 
That's not to say Clinton ain't a scumbag, that he was in spades, Mena, NAFTA and the long toll of suspicious and convenient deaths of associated folks who knew too much.
I hated him and his whole little "Smiling Liars" cabal from the get-go, and they damned well *should* have impeached him for NAFTA, not a freakin blowjob - about the only smart thing I recall him doing was getting our troops the fekk out of Africa before the situation tanked, which is was gonna do with or without our intervention, and that wasn't for altruism, it was simply unprofitable as they had no resources worth hijacking.
Conversely, the Bush family history of sleaze goes back a long way, and while Bush I was a total creep, he was a relatively intelligent, competent creep... the Shrub is just a pale shadow thereof, incompetent, stupid and less subtle than a ton of bricks.
It's not so much Shrub proper, but being the frontman of course he's gonna take most of the hate, yet to be honest he's such a maroon that I doubt he really has any awareness of anything beyond his little circle of handlers and sycophants....
What folks are hating on, is the Neo-Conservative Straussian PNAC and Clean Break Cabal, which spans both parties in fact, because the roots of it were born in the office of Henry "Scoop" Jackson, and transcend through both parties to the lunacy we have today.
Other than Ron Paul, who like me is "mad as a hatter" (in a good, freedom loving way!) all of these bastards are essentially the same, and it's just more bread and circuses at the ballot box cause when you're pulling that lever...
The only real choice you are making is KY or Vaseline before they bend you over the table and have at you.
What I find almost as offensive, also, is that they're not even slick or subtle about it anymore, they have such a lock on the system that they can be pretty obvious in not giving a shit what we the people, technically their bosses, think - and you got a buncha frogs hoppin around with scorched butts bitchin.
And playin the world conquest game is ill enough, but they're so BAD at it, the incompetence is just painful to watch - if we're gonna do it, DO it, send in some diplomatic shysters and rook em into agreements that give us what we want and leave them happy to give it to us....
Be cheaper and more effective than offending them at every single chance with cretins like Bolton, and then engaging military force.
It's not that they're evil that rooks me so much as that they're incompetent and STUPID, and that is unforgiveable in politics.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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But Clinton.........
I wouldn't worry so much about things. Actually for you and your fellow Anarchists you might not have very long to wait to see your dream come true, assuming the Dems will be totally running the country in January 2009.
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Jarhead
You make many excellent points, so I'd like to discuss them in detail.
"I really can't grasp the absolute and total hatred of George W. Bush."
Dubya is easy to focus on. He's a sociopath and mentally deficient, and as a person, completely despicable. But what I hate is what he stands for and the political machine that got him into power and runs him. Dubya (and the machine) are focused on making people SO defensive they won't look above their jobs, their paychecks, and their little lives b/c it's all too big, too bad, and too out of their control - and their own lives are too precarious.
Is that what a democracy is suppose to be about ? People too cowed and bamboozled to understand they have a CHOICE in how they run their own society ?
"When everything is tallied up and the historians are trying to sum up his presidency in a hundred years, the exact wording will be something like "Meh," coupled with a shrug of the shoulders. The man has hardly done anything - good or bad."
I believe there are real problems we must address now or we may not be here as a country, a species or a planet in 100 years. OK, that's hyperbole. But in 100 years people may be looking back and wondering - when we had the chance to fix real problems and didn't - and then it got to be too late - what were we thinking ?
"Bush Jr. is just the latest in a long line of corrupt corporate servants slowly building America into a place where what you don't pay in taxes gets sucked up by basic living expenses, and all of that money goes to a hundred different subsidiaries of one parent multi-national mega-corp."
Yes and - it seems no matter how many time one points that out to the Bush lovers they turn a blind eye.
"Billy Jeff Clin-tong? You mean you think that there's something the southern politician is accused of that he didn't do? Are you deficient?"
I don't think he had Vince Foster 'suicided'. Don't think he conspired on Whitewater, travel-gate or the myriad other items that $40M USD was spent trying to get him on. After all was said and done, the only thing they could find on him was lying about a blow job.
BTW, the WORST things I can think of that he did were perfectly legal. NAFTA. DMCC.
"Bush I? First person of any stature to use the phrase "New World Order".
Yeah, it did scare me, AS IT DOES NOW. And it's not that Dubya says it, but that the people running him (mostly daddy's people) are doing it.
"Reagan? Actor in the role of a lifetime."
And I agree with all you said about Reagan. There may be an archived thread "Ronald Reagan - Rot". Go check it out.
"Carter? Another "Meh."
And so on. So yeah, you hate GW all you want, but if I were you I'd critically examine my own beliefs to see if I was missing the forest for the trees."
As I said above, Bush is the face on the machine. And what scares me are all the people - here - who love him, support him, and defend EVERYTHING he and his administration do. I keep hoping, maybe someday if it's pointed out enough, even they will come to realize that Bush is there to stampede them, lie to them, take from them. And keep from them 'the audacity of hope'. (BTW I know a white supremacist Hispanic. He's stupid enough to think that if he aligns himself with them, they will align themselves with him. He thinks he can join them. What a tool. He's what the Bush lovers remind me of. They think that if they support Bush, somehow they'll be in that crowd. Yeah. Like they're going to Dubai to retire on tax money with the support of their wealthy connections.)
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Actually, 100 years from now when people look back at the Bush Presidency they'll realize that it was the Cheney Presidency. Bush was the stupid face fronting for a crazy dude.
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Originally posted by rue:
He's what the Bush lovers remind me of. They think that if they support Bush, somehow they'll be in that crowd.
Actually I believe in the President and most of his policies. I could care less about being in any crowd. Like most real Americans, I make my own way, sometimes there's a crowd there and sometimes its nice to be all alone.
I think the ugliness of the Bush-haters goes all the way back to the 2000 election. Some people could not accept the outcome. If Gore had won there'd be Gore-haters.
The reason the Bush-haters are so desperate now is because of their anger and bitterness over the 2000 and 2004 elections. The way they see it the first election was stolen, so they are mad, but the second election was lost and for that they blame the American people. Thus they are more and more willing to throw aside simple decorum and common curtosy because they think the people, knowing the truth, failed to make things right. Add in a little liberal extremism, anarchy, a liberal press bias, the internet, and a war and you get what we have today.
I note for the record, no network (other then FOX) broadcast that last week there were NO, zero, nada, absolutely zilch deaths of American servicement in Iraq. They have further failed to report the dramatic fall in American, Iraqi military, and civilian casualties and the dramatic decrease in violence, bombings, and insurgency actions since the end of June when the final surge units arrived in theater.
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