New Sequel Rumor?

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ASARIAN

Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Stoweaway:

I think Pizmo has stumbled across the real conspiracy here. They're late putting out the comic so they're letting sequel rumors distract the rabid fans while they scramble to finally get the thing to print.

I prefer a more positive conspiracy: they've been stalling the comic, so it could finally make place for the upcoming sequel. :)

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

ASARIAN

Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:14 AM

Ok, so I guess this means it's a no-go after all, right?

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=7&t=31093

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

RAYCHEETAH

Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by asarian:
Ok, so I guess this means it's a no-go after all, right?

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=7&t=31093

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

Much as I love Jewel, let's not get all depressed, here. This is what she said:

"Okay, okay, okay: Lets address these Serenity 2 rumors before anything else. I have no idea what you people are talking about! Seems to me someone (with a name that starts with A and ends in LAN) said something in an interview that was misconstrued as the sequel being greenlit, which is not the case at the moment. I will never say it will never happen, because that's just blasphemy in my opinion, but it's not happening at the moment… no matter what you read on the internet. You know better than to believe everything you read, anyway! "

No one, not even the most ridiculously optimistic, has ever said they thought what Alan meant was that Universal (or, anyone else) had greenlighted a sequel.

Pretty much, Jewel's NOT Joss.

So, I'm still waiting to hear from HIM about the rumors about Universal /being interested in/ a sequel, as expressed by Alan in the original interview.

Hang in there, folks. This is far from over.

-Raycheetah =^[.]^=
The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=30176

WYTCHCROFT

Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Stoweaway:

I think Pizmo has stumbled across the real conspiracy here.
They're late putting out the comic so they're letting sequel rumors distract the rabid fans while they scramble to finally get the thing to print.

hey now - don't be cussin' up none on the darkhorse boys or i swear by my pretty floral bonnet i will open a can of genuine whup ass on you... least ways if i can find one with a label on... RIVER!!!

well, fine.

in any cae B'WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SUPERUNKNOWN

Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Raycheetah:
Quote:
Originally posted by asarian:
Ok, so I guess this means it's a no-go after all, right?

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=7&t=31093

--
"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

Much as I love Jewel, let's not get all depressed, here. This is what she said:

"Okay, okay, okay: Lets address these Serenity 2 rumors before anything else. I have no idea what you people are talking about! Seems to me someone (with a name that starts with A and ends in LAN) said something in an interview that was misconstrued as the sequel being greenlit, which is not the case at the moment. I will never say it will never happen, because that's just blasphemy in my opinion, but it's not happening at the moment… no matter what you read on the internet. You know better than to believe everything you read, anyway! "

No one, not even the most ridiculously optimistic, has ever said they thought what Alan meant was that Universal (or, anyone else) had greenlighted a sequel.

Pretty much, Jewel's NOT Joss.

So, I'm still waiting to hear from HIM about the rumors about Universal /being interested in/ a sequel, as expressed by Alan in the original interview.

Hang in there, folks. This is far from over.

-Raycheetah =^[.]^=
The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=30176

I think a LOT of people are taking Tudyk's quotes out of context and only posting the bits they want to see. He did say it was a possibility, but he also said a sequel to I, ROBOT (where he was the robot Sonny) is more likely to come first.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, October 22, 2007 6:51 AM

I'm thinking Josswatch: Day 18.

WYTCHCROFT

Monday, October 22, 2007 9:04 AM

heh heh - and i can imagine him with tim minear and david greewalt in their trio like lair all gadgets and monitors and "but they're watching me Tim - they're watching me!"
Tim "quit it short stuff - get down and gimme 50 now!"
"Joss - yes master - ooh so... macho - so tough... {plots method of killing off tim's favourites characters...} - hoo! whoosh! gosh!"

STARTROOP

Monday, October 22, 2007 6:49 PM

I have a theory, and it is just that, theory. I agree that there is no "green light" for Serenity II. I also believe that there is no "official" discussions going.

However, I do think that there are backroom and lunch time discussions happening. Remember folks that making a movie is a multi-million dollar deal. The days of the .com's are gone and people don't make these kinds of deals on the back of napkin.

My theory (theory means I made it up from a bunch of clues and it might or might NOT have a connection to reality) is that there have probably been some low level folks at the studio that have said, "these numbers are starting to look good". There are probably some MBA types (I can poke fun at MBA"s as I are one) in the head office that are looking at the numbers. They might even have had some lunch time/cocktail hour discussions with Joss about what he thought about it.

The next part of my theory is about Joss himself. Every interview I have seen and everything I have read about him shows him to be very quick witted and shrewd. I also think he wants to do more with the "Verse". The kicker here is that I think he wants to make this a real movie, not a two hour episode. He needs a real budget for that. He also wants to pay the actors real money. This means negotiations because the MBA's want the same rates as before to get what they got. Joss is probably negotiating but wants them to come to him verses him begging (which is what happened with Serenity).

This kind of dance takes time. The buzz among the fan community only helps him. IMHO, he will not kill it unless it becomes obvious that he can't deliver (I think he genuinely likes his fan base and doesn't want them hurt).

I am cautiously optimistic. This is still VERY early days yet and multi-million dollar sales jobs (which is what we are watching here) take time, finesse, and a bunch of plain old hard work. I read these threads every day for more real evidence and I don't see much other than Joss's silence. Alan's remark is interesting, but lacks follow through. Jewel's remark is interesting for what it doesn't say (Alan's remark was about "discussions". Jewel's remark was about a "green light").

So what should we do? First, keep posting and watching. Secondly, BUY the collector's edition (I have already ordered my wife's Xmas present .... don't tell ;-) Finally, be patient. I think Joss is in a dance with the studio people and it will take time.

Remember this is a theory based on just a smidgen of data and a whole lot of creative imagery. I have no inside track and don't really know. I just guessing like all of the rest of us ;-)

RAYCHEETAH

Monday, October 22, 2007 8:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by startroop:
I have a theory, and it is just that, theory. I agree that there is no "green light" for Serenity II. I also believe that there is no "official" discussions going.

However, I do think that there are backroom and lunch time discussions happening. Remember folks that making a movie is a multi-million dollar deal. The days of the .com's are gone and people don't make these kinds of deals on the back of napkin.

My theory (theory means I made it up from a bunch of clues and it might or might NOT have a connection to reality) is that there have probably been some low level folks at the studio that have said, "these numbers are starting to look good". There are probably some MBA types (I can poke fun at MBA"s as I are one) in the head office that are looking at the numbers. They might even have had some lunch time/cocktail hour discussions with Joss about what he thought about it.

The next part of my theory is about Joss himself. Every interview I have seen and everything I have read about him shows him to be very quick witted and shrewd. I also think he wants to do more with the "Verse". The kicker here is that I think he wants to make this a real movie, not a two hour episode. He needs a real budget for that. He also wants to pay the actors real money. This means negotiations because the MBA's want the same rates as before to get what they got. Joss is probably negotiating but wants them to come to him verses him begging (which is what happened with Serenity).

This kind of dance takes time. The buzz among the fan community only helps him. IMHO, he will not kill it unless it becomes obvious that he can't deliver (I think he genuinely likes his fan base and doesn't want them hurt).

I am cautiously optimistic. This is still VERY early days yet and multi-million dollar sales jobs (which is what we are watching here) take time, finesse, and a bunch of plain old hard work. I read these threads every day for more real evidence and I don't see much other than Joss's silence. Alan's remark is interesting, but lacks follow through. Jewel's remark is interesting for what it doesn't say (Alan's remark was about "discussions". Jewel's remark was about a "green light").

So what should we do? First, keep posting and watching. Secondly, BUY the collector's edition (I have already ordered my wife's Xmas present .... don't tell ;-) Finally, be patient. I think Joss is in a dance with the studio people and it will take time.

Remember this is a theory based on just a smidgen of data and a whole lot of creative imagery. I have no inside track and don't really know. I just guessing like all of the rest of us ;-)

Gorram it, startroop!

Some'a us have already made up our minds! Don't you go confusin' us with your fancified reasonable talk =^[.]~=!

Actually, this sounds like a likely scenario. I can't imagine Joss not actively seeking his opportunity, and, I am still optimistic about his ongoing silence. Per startroop's observation, Joss is as loyal to the fans as we are to him, and, I just can't see him allowing us all to torment ourselves with vain hopes.

So, yeah, buy more BDCEs, everybody! And, make sure that, if you're gonna buy licensed merchandise, it's from the Serenity license, 'cause, right now, F*X (holders of the Firefly license) don't need any more of our money than we absolutely have to give 'em. Universal holds the Serenity license, sees the money rollin' in, they'll know we're happy to part with cashy money...

Which is what talks, in this case.

Can't stop the Signal!

-Raycheetah =^[.]^=
The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=30176

SAFEAT2ND

Monday, October 22, 2007 10:50 PM

I think too that Joss is not killing this rumour because it's akin to poking a hornets nest. It's causing buzz and renewed fervor. Also the extra sales don't hurt.

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