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Firefly is a rip-off of the Battlestar Galactica episode 'Lost Warrior'!

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, October 22, 2007 06:13
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RAYCHEETAH

Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:16 PM

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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
isn't this kinda like suggesting that FF ripped off Star Trek, and Wagon Train, and a bunch of John Wayne movies? And probably Gunsmoke, too? Wasn't Miss Kitty more than just a saloon owner, especially when she was younger?

Isn't all of that part of the genre? And , of course, the most important difference between BSG and Firefly, no aliens?

"There is nothing new under the sun, except that which has been forgotten."

Reputedly spoken by Marie Antoinette's dressmaker. Source is disputed. Me, I'm too lazy to Google it.

Implications? So many gorram ideas out there, bound to see some of 'em pop up again, in different places, from time to time,

Still, Joss likely did see BSG:TOS, as well as many of the other shows mentioned. Conscious derivation? Almost certainly not. General influence? Hey, they various elements we enjoy in their combination in Firefly had to come from somewhere...

-Raycheetah =^[.]^=
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CHRISISALL

Sunday, October 21, 2007 8:57 PM

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Originally posted by gorramgroupie:

So, if we got a soliciator and a companion in the same room, would there be a fight, or trading pointers?

I suspect whatever, I'd need to be in my bunk.

Jayneisall

GORRAMGROUPIE

Sunday, October 21, 2007 9:05 PM

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Originally posted by Raycheetah:

"There is nothing new under the sun, except that which has been forgotten."

Reputedly spoken by Marie Antoinette's dressmaker. Source is disputed. Me, I'm too lazy to Google it.

Implications? So many gorram ideas out there, bound to see some of 'em pop up again, in different places, from time to time,

Still, Joss likely did see BSG:TOS, as well as many of the other shows mentioned. Conscious derivation? Almost certainly not. General influence? Hey, they various elements we enjoy in their combination in Firefly had to come from somewhere...

-Raycheetah =^[.]^=
The enjoyment of any good thing is only enhanced by sharing it with others.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=30176]

I vaguely remember there are only 3 main themes in literature, and everything can fall into one of those themes. Man vs man, man vs nature, man vs himself. So, since television is just visual literature(no comments on quality from me), and since it has to fit in to those three catagories, of course it makes *sense that ideas crop up again and again. Of course, how yo present those ideas is where true creativity comes in.

Gosh, did I go on and on!
*Edit: Ooops, I caught a boo-boo.

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CANTTAKESKY

Sunday, October 21, 2007 9:16 PM

I think Joss ripped off whoever wrote Alien: Resurrection. Ya know, the rag-tag space pirates taking on odd transport jobs.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky
Aude sapere (Dare to know). -- Samuel Hahnemann, M.D.

RAYCHEETAH

Sunday, October 21, 2007 9:28 PM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
I think Joss ripped off whoever wrote Alien: Resurrection. Ya know, the rag-tag space pirates taking on odd transport jobs.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky
Aude sapere (Dare to know). -- Samuel Hahnemann, M.D.

I wanna see how that lawsuit pans out!

Mebbe Joss could use the proceeds of the settlement to make Serenity 2: The Irony.

-Raycheetah =^[.]~=
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WYTCHCROFT

Sunday, October 21, 2007 9:46 PM

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DERANGEDMILK

Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 08:59

Thats funny, I always thought it was a rip-off of that movie Serenity. I just gave Joss credit for ripping himself off before he actually did something. Genius, that one.

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
I think Joss ripped off whoever wrote Alien: Resurrection. Ya know, the rag-tag space pirates taking on odd transport jobs.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky
Aude sapere (Dare to know). -- Samuel Hahnemann, M.D.

that'll be the hazards of time travel* -
ripping yourself off when you aint looking!:)

*or possibly a rewind day - no wait, wrong show... but it did have christina hendricks - ooh i'm confused...

in space no/one can hear you pun.

JAKEDATHE

Monday, October 22, 2007 2:25 AM

i think thats bull shit FF may have some simalarities but is no rip off :)

CHRISISALL

Monday, October 22, 2007 3:14 AM

Dial down dudes; just a goof!

The Chrisisall

CAUSAL

Monday, October 22, 2007 3:16 AM

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Originally posted by gorramgroupie:
I just watched that episode today, and I disagree. Everything about BSG and FF are different. BSG is a group of people on the run from enemies who want to destroy them, searching for a lost branch of their people. The use FTL, laser guns, improbable technology and contrived divisions. FF has extrapolated tech, people who are home, normal divisions(rich and poor still exist) and even the language can be traced to proper roots. Don't get me wrong, I love BSG, both then and now, but there is really no comparison between that and FF. Very different ideas.

I, too, have no sarcasm detector. You're wrong, Chrisisall, wrong!

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CAUSAL

Monday, October 22, 2007 3:19 AM

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Originally posted by gorramgroupie:
I just watched that episode today, and I disagree. Everything about BSG and FF are different. BSG is a group of people on the run from enemies who want to destroy them, searching for a lost branch of their people. The use FTL, laser guns, improbable technology and contrived divisions. FF has extrapolated tech, people who are home, normal divisions(rich and poor still exist) and even the language can be traced to proper roots. Don't get me wrong, I love BSG, both then and now, but there is really no comparison between that and FF. Very different ideas.

I, too, have no sarcasm detector. You're wrong, Chrisisall, wrong!

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