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Serenity VS. Star Wars Ep. III??

POSTED BY: arcbeatle
UPDATED: Monday, July 12, 2004 02:42
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Monday, April 12, 2004 6:34 PM

Star Wars will do much better I think. Serenity may be a good film, but it won't top Episode III. However, it may be able to latch on afterwords as an intelligent science fiction film.

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Monday, April 12, 2004 8:02 PM

I would like to see a line of space ships put out like the old Millenium Falcon. One of Serenity, the Fed ships rock (the small fighters I mean) and then a reaper ship with the grappling hook devices that really work!

How bout a Crazy 8 ball (remember those?) with River wisdom and predictions on it?

And the whole line of play guns..

Candy bars that look like the loot taken from the wreckage in Episode 1: Serenity

I do digress...

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Monday, April 12, 2004 8:04 PM

As with so many others, I grew up with Star Wars. And with that came a love for the bad guys, their sweet armor, big guns, and great music. In school I was considered the go-to guy for SW info (but there were definitely others who knew more than me). And I am not afraid to say that overall, I was pleased with Episodes 1&2. That's not to say I love Jar-Jar (becuase I most certainly do not), or that I am too overly enthused by the fact that Boba Fett (my favorite less-than-five-lines-in-a-move-but-still-cool-as-hell character ever) is nothing more than a dumb clone. (most of all hate the use of the Death Star in Ep.2)

I say this so you will know that when I say "comparing box office takes of Episode 3 and Serenity are two similar but diferent things," you will understand where I come from. Comparing box office takes of Episode 3 and Serenity are two similar but diferent things.

True, they both share the same type of Sci-Fi fanbase, but as Zoid pointed out "our military men and women have found a resonance in Firefly's story and characters and will be at theaters in droves." However, at the same time, Star Wars still has that name-brand recognition, and the os-so-overused CGI aliens. Yeah, I'm using Firefly's lack of aliens (which I actually think is a cool idea) against it for sake of discussion. But let's face it, a kid looks at a trailer and sees some funny looking alien and therefore convinces his parents to take him to that movie. For every child there are 2 parents (roughly), that's at least three tickets. The average American Family has about 2.5 children. Thats about 5 tickets per home. Assuming the kids go with their friends (who will inevitably be escorted by parents) that could jump anywhere from 5 to 10 tickets per home.

Admittedly, us loyal Browncoats will most likely go en-masse to theaters multiple times. So that's probably 7 or 8 per group. Multiplied by however many times we see the BDM.

Long and somewhat pointless story short: If Serenity and Episode 3 share a release weekend, pray for Joss. If their openings are different, SW may take in the big bucks for a while but look for Serenity to be the sleeper hit of the year.

PS
sorry if I ranted a bit

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Monday, April 12, 2004 9:48 PM

Speaking strictly for myself, I intend to have plenty of cash in my wallet for both, more than once. I think it would be smart of Universal to release Serenity a week or two (or three) before Ep. III.

Hopefully, they won't do what Paramount did with the last Star Trek movie, releasing it to compete with James Bond, Harry Potter and The Lord Of The Rings.

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Monday, April 12, 2004 11:30 PM

Personally, I think a lot of the fear stemming from releasing "too many sci-fi films or shows or what-not" at the same time is based off of unreasonable assumptions by the big business types. Sci-fi fans will see both. The main question is about the non-sci-fi fan mundanes. Will people be intruiged by a general sci-fi advertising blitz into trying something they may never hav heard of, or will they feel like shelling out bucks only for the established cross-over franshise? I kind of think the former is not an unreasonable possibility.


Diego

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Monday, April 12, 2004 11:43 PM


>Do we want to see Firefly action figures?? Legos?

I made a lego model of Serenity a while back. It evolved over a month or so, and it's almost certainly a sign of the on-set of dementia. But everyone I've showed it to has agreed that she's pretty shiny ship. The scary thing is that the engine pods have the full range of motion, the spinny thing near the firefly "abdomen" does its spinny thing, and the main cargo-bay door and the hatch that Jayne likes to hang out of both open up. Even scarier; the shuttles can detach. But the part that will really dot the "i"'s on my commitment to the asylum, is that even though you have to peer through the tiny gangway door, you can see that the cargo deck has wee balconies.

When I get a good picture I'll post it up here. It's harder to photograph than I would have thought.


Diego

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Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:17 AM


Diego wrote:

"I made a lego model of Serenity a while back. It evolved over a month or so, and it's almost certainly a sign of the on-set of dementia..."

Cool, I've got one made of Lincoln Logs! Of course it's only in my mind, on account of the way they've got my arms crossing my chest and tied in the back; but, it's really neat! I've even got a miniature Abe Lincoln in the dining hall, drinking cider and emancipating the mudders.

Dude...

Still, 'idle hands' and all that... Just don't show it to any girls you pick up at the club; show 'em your pictures of "The Crucified 'Tash", instead. ('Tash, your cue) They'll be outta their outer garments in no time (or outta your house, one or t'other).





Respectfully, (if playfully)

zoid
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from A Child Shall Lead Them: A History of the Second War of Independence, Wilkins, Richard

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Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:38 AM

Stoppard (re)wrote the dialog??? Based on the first 2, I was planning to skip the 3rd one. I may have to reconsider...

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Tuesday, April 13, 2004 2:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SamuraiX47:
Again as someone near the top of the thread asked Arcbeatle... Do you know of an actual release date for Serenity? All we've been able to do is surmise and assume and suspect when it will hit theaters. Timing wise... mid to late August may be the best... or maybe April...

In another month or so we should know for sure. Movie studios and directors don't like to start shooting a film and not know what their deadline is. Shooting begins in June.

Jaymes



The release is currently set for "late 2005." I am guessing that it will be released around November, definitely no earlier than August. No specific release dates have been set. And btw, most movies don't get release dates until months to years after they finish shooting.

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Tuesday, April 13, 2004 7:01 PM


Dude...

Still, 'idle hands' and all that... Just don't show it to any girls you pick up at the club; show 'em your pictures of "The Crucified 'Tash", instead.
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I dunno, Zoid. That advise doesn't apply to geek chicks. My present girlfriend likes it.

I suddenly flash back to the PVP comic that features Firefly.


Diego

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