'Serenity 2' Not An Impossibility'

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UPDATED: Friday, October 19, 2007 12:27
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CEDRIC

Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:11 PM

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Originally posted by FollowMal:
Cedric, thank you!

I've run into two posts by you- this one here and one over at serenitymovie.net that made me "Whoop!" It's such a pleasure to run into someone with hope and that fighting spirit.

There are some folks who are looked up to who have become so pessimistic that to go where they post is bad for my Browncoat soul. This is a whole helluva lot more like how I'm a thinkin'!

Browncoats are known for their holdin' ways, not their foldin' ways.
I'm standin' firm right here with you.
I'm holdin' til Mal gets back.

It always amazes me that fans of a story about a man who regains his faith manage to lose theirs so easily.

From the time we were kids, we've all thought of scifi as a fringe phenomenon, something we like because we're weird, something the normals don't know about . . .

Wake up and smell the coffee. That has changed. Star Trek and Star Wars are mainstream now. ComicCon gets coverage in the mainstream press and attention from the mainstream tv/film industry. Several of the most popular shows on mainstream TV today are about superheroes and people trapped in science fiction situations. Subjects that used to be relegated to comic books--even obscure comics like the X-Men--are now major motion pictures.

There will come a time when everyone in our culture will have heard of Firefly, when Mal and Jayne will be as recognizable as Kirk and Spock or Han Solo and Chewbacca. Not everyone will be a Browncoat then, anymore than everyone is now a Trekkie; but everyone will know what a Browncoat is.

But we fans of quality scifi go on thinking that we're a weird fringe group that is just going to get beaten down.

Heck, even if we are, I'm still going to keep believing in a trilogy.

Cedric

"Some things stay with you, 'til the day you die."
On the Drift: Music Inspired by Firefly and Serenity, now on sale at
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bedlambards/from/celtic

ASARIAN

Friday, October 19, 2007 1:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cedric:

Quote:
Originally posted by FollowMal:

Cedric, thank you!

I've run into two posts by you- this one here and one over at serenitymovie.net that made me "Whoop!" It's such a pleasure to run into someone with hope and that fighting spirit.

There are some folks who are looked up to who have become so pessimistic that to go where they post is bad for my Browncoat soul. This is a whole helluva lot more like how I'm a thinkin'!

Browncoats are known for their holdin' ways, not their foldin' ways.
I'm standin' firm right here with you.
I'm holdin' til Mal gets back.

It always amazes me that fans of a story about a man who regains his faith manage to lose theirs so easily.

From the time we were kids, we've all thought of scifi as a fringe phenomenon, something we like because we're weird, something the normals don't know about . . .

Wake up and smell the coffee. That has changed. Star Trek and Star Wars are mainstream now. ComicCon gets coverage in the mainstream press and attention from the mainstream tv/film industry. Several of the most popular shows on mainstream TV today are about superheroes and people trapped in science fiction situations. Subjects that used to be relegated to comic books--even obscure comics like the X-Men--are now major motion pictures.

There will come a time when everyone in our culture will have heard of Firefly, when Mal and Jayne will be as recognizable as Kirk and Spock or Han Solo and Chewbacca. Not everyone will be a Browncoat then, anymore than everyone is now a Trekkie; but everyone will know what a Browncoat is.

But we fans of quality scifi go on thinking that we're a weird fringe group that is just going to get beaten down.

Heck, even if we are, I'm still going to keep believing in a trilogy.

Cedric

Everyone grieves in different ways. And loves in different ways, too. Some folks love Firefly so much, that letting go of hope for more is nothing short of committing a mortal sin. Others love Firefly so much, that, like Mal, they can't keep holding out for a train don't come. Now, that don't make Mal any more of a 'traitor' than any Browncoat who, at long last, chooses to shield his own dear and fluffy soul against a sea of squashed hopes. Also, Mal has not truly given up all hope for help from on High; it's more like he stopped actively investing in said hope -- to safeguard his own soul from having to deal with constant disappointment. I, my own self, often find myself in that spot, too. And I find nothing so dishonorable 'bout that. A year from now, I'd hate having to scrape hope, yet again, from under the heel of this or that Universal Executive.

I know it's kinda of standard fansite thingy here, even when half in jest, to clobber on whoseoever casts but a shadow of a doubt. And it is, on occasion, hilarious. But, in earnest... Hope is orphaned when not begotten by a desperate parent. I mean to say, addressing fears and doubts really are integral to understanding hope. Make fears and doubts taboo, and ere long no one will even know any more WHY a need for hope exists. Among genuine fears and doubts I also count the question whether a thing, when it can be done, also always SHOULD be done, per se. You mention Star Wars. I dunno your age, but I grew up with the original trilogy, and saw it get raped with the prequels. Young folks, they don't even notice: as long as it moves, it's fine with them. A man comes up against that kind of travesty, the only way to deal with it, I suspect, is to ask himself, at least once, whether "Serenity II: The Search for More Money" is such a good idea. Losing faith don't play into that.

Is there an understanding between us?

--
"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

DRAGONFLY0ME

Friday, October 19, 2007 1:25 AM

Hope! Hope! Hope! I am big on it.

Universal, I know you are out there listening. You make it and I will go see it - big screen, small screen, movie, TV series (PLEASE!), you name it. I'll bring friends, do handstands, buy every DVD made 5 times over.

Nothing is impossible and I have hope to move this mountain!

"We all take different routes to the same somewhere." - Alix Olson

CEDRIC

Friday, October 19, 2007 3:14 AM

I understand you, Asarian, and there are things I have chosen to give up faith in. A quality Serenity sequel is not one of them--I haven't seen any reason to give up hope on that. To tell the truth, I keep seeing reasons to have more hope.

Cedric

"Some things stay with you, 'til the day you die."
On the Drift: Music Inspired by Firefly and Serenity, now on sale at
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bedlambards/from/celtic

CEDRIC

Friday, October 19, 2007 3:16 AM

Okay, as long as we're discussing it, let me throw in that faith must be backed up by action, so I'm urging everyone to join in the Wavecard Campaign. Here's the info:

It was first proposed over on The Signal forum:

http://fireflydvd.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3794

Basically, the idea is quite simple. Quantum Mechanix sells packs of really shiny 'Verse-themed postcards. If you haven't seen 'em, check 'em out. They're pretty and funny:

http://www.quantummechanix.com/Blue%20Sun%20Travel%20Wavecards.html

So the plan is to order sets of these cards, write a note asking (politely) for Serenity sequel on each one, and send them to Universal at this address:

Universal Pictures
100 Universal City Plaza
Universal City, CA 91608
Attn: Donna Langley
and
Attn: Jon Gordon

(BTW, there's some uncertainty on The Signal forum about the attn names, so if anyone has more up to date info, please don't keep it to yourself. In any case, we know it's the right address, and the postcards are sure to get someone's attention.)

Why is this letter writing campaign different from those of the past?

First off, timing. We know Universal is on the verge of greenlighting the Big Damn Sequel.

Second off, Universal Licensed Products. In the film industry, money talks, so by sending these wavecards, which are official licensed products, we're putting money in Universal's pocket and underscoring the potential for lots more profit.

Third, this time, we're all behind it. Only you can make sure that we do the impossible—again. When all the Browncoats stand united, there's not a power in the 'Verse that can stop us.

Let's make it happen, folks,

Cedric

"Some things stay with you, 'til the day you die."
On the Drift: Music Inspired by Firefly and Serenity, now on sale at
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bedlambards/from/celtic

KATO

Friday, October 19, 2007 5:22 AM

Though I wouldn't mind a sequel to Serenity, frankly it would be awesome, however I would prefer that Season 2 of Firefly get made instead. But if they do both then bow-chicka-bow-wow!

Burn the land, boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me...

"Submit therefore to God, resist the devil and he shall flee from you" -James 4:7

SUPERUNKNOWN

Friday, October 19, 2007 10:14 AM

The problem with a second series is that FOX hold the rights to Firefly. Even if they don't order new episodes, they can still broadcast the repeats. In order for a Firefly Season 2 to be made, Joss and the team would have to not only re-acquire the rights to the show, but find somene else willing to pick it up. It wouldn't be too difficult given the fan support, but it would still take some work.

WYTCHCROFT

Friday, October 19, 2007 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by superunknown:
The problem with a second series is that FOX hold the rights to Firefly. Even if they don't order new episodes, they can still broadcast the repeats. In order for a Firefly Season 2 to be made, Joss and the team would have to not only re-acquire the rights to the show, but find somene else willing to pick it up. It wouldn't be too difficult given the fan support, but it would still take some work.

not true from what i gather. fux holds the tv rights to FireFly (although Universal may have it now given the HD showings) BUT as i've said - Universal hold the rights to Serenity - and any future movies... Feature length 'tv - movies' (ie a six part series that can basically be sold for the dvd set it would constitute) would evade the licensing fox issue. They could even opt for limited cinematic release in overseas territory.
So celebrate FireFly and look forward to Serenity.

SUPERUNKNOWN

Friday, October 19, 2007 12:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by wytchcroft:
Quote:
Originally posted by superunknown:
The problem with a second series is that FOX hold the rights to Firefly. Even if they don't order new episodes, they can still broadcast the repeats. In order for a Firefly Season 2 to be made, Joss and the team would have to not only re-acquire the rights to the show, but find somene else willing to pick it up. It wouldn't be too difficult given the fan support, but it would still take some work.

not true from what i gather. fux holds the tv rights to FireFly (although Universal may have it now given the HD showings) BUT as i've said - Universal hold the rights to Serenity - and any future movies... Feature length 'tv - movies' (ie a six part series that can basically be sold for the dvd set it would constitute) would evade the licensing fox issue. They could even opt for limited cinematic release in overseas territory.
So celebrate FireFly and look forward to Serenity.

Sorry, I mis-interpreted the post as meaning a full-time return as a television series the way it was originally intended, not as telemovies.

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