Evils of the World
POSTED BY: theheroofcanton
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:57
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Iraq flaunted the UN for a dozen years, and finally someone had the balls to do something about it.
Yeah, that certainly was the main reason for attacking Iraq. Because he flaunted the UN.
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Bin Laden organized and instigated a half dozen terrorist attacks but it wasn’t until the attack that killed 3000 people before anyone took him seriously.
When Clinton fired cruise missiles at Al quada after the embassy bombings, he was accused by Republicans of diverting attention from the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Of course, he should've just flaunted public opinion and sent in troops, but politicians all want to be liked.
Edit: sorry for the quad-post. It's my style.
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Originally posted by LtNOWIS:
Just because you can compare Bush and Hitler, it doesn't mean the German guy should freak out.
Maybe it's because I'm tired but which German guy? Just want to understand before I respond.
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LEMAT,I was responding to SPIKEANDJEZEBEL's post :
"Not to make this thread a political debate, but I'd actually put George W. pretty close to the top of my list, over Saddam even...."
How it got attribituted to your post, I have no idea. The response is self explanitory. This is why I get so annoyed when folks bring politics onto these types of messageboards. While we may not agree on some things,can't we at least agree on Firefly? There is an entire net out there for us to be at odds with each other. Can't this be one place where we can agree on something?
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. Worked that out myself. "
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Hmm Im not going to add my own opinions about who is more evil, Bush, Saddam, or Hitler, but I have another point of view.
I dislike immensely the need to label something "evil." Its like just by calling something evil you can close discussion about something or can justify anything without any rationality. "Why did you attack him?" "oh, well he was evil. end of story". I think labeling something evil is a cop out, much like McCarthyism labeled anything not within a narrow viewpoint Communist.
Evil should be left to things like religion, fiction/movies, etc. It's much too simplistic to call something in real life evil. Remember, to Islamic fundamentalists we (the US) are considered evil. You might laugh and think its obvious we arent and that they are, but I'm sure they are just as sure of the other point of view.
Anyway, to bring this discussion back to Firefly (where i think it IS safe to say something is evil-come on its just fictional entertainment) While I think its understood that the Alliance is "evil", apparently for a good number of people (even Inara) it was better than alternatives. Sometimes I think of that and go hmmm... Though provoking to say the least....
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Apeman61 wrote
I think what he's doing in Iraq and Afganistan is the right thing. He taking evil men out of power.
As soon as he invades China I will believe that removing evil has anything to do with his motivation. Plus several of his cabinet members/advisors share responsibility for putting Saddam and Osama into power.
Have to agree with you on Kerry though, I actually considered voting Democrat this year, but after the primary I am going to have to go third party again.
It would be nice to see a candidate state that he will not support a brutal dictator in any way and for any reason. That he will not permit our nation to sell WMD technology or WMDs themselves to any nation. That we will support democratically elected leaders even when they are opposed to our current economic agenda.
Arawaen
Um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm Angry. And I'm Armed.
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SevenPercent wrote
....we used to try to assassinate folks too (it's only recently we gave that up, and GW wanted to repeal that Exec. Order that stops us-)
I may be wrong but I believe it was Jimmy Carter that stopped political assassination and Bill Clinton who put it back on the table. Pretty sure that Clinton authorized the assassination of Osama, though I can't guarantee that he repealed the executive order.
My belief in the Golden Rule makes me side with Jimmy Carter. I hold nations to a body of individuals and what applies to individuals, applies to nations in terms of morality.
Arawaen
Um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm Angry. And I'm Armed.
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RocketJock wrote: The war on Afghanistan is defensible; they aided Bin Laden, and gave Al Queda a training and staging area. I supported Bush in this.
I think it would have been more defensible if we made a formal declaration of war before invading a sovereign nation. I think a declaration would have been justified for the reasons you gave.
I also think we need to take responsibility for supporting the Islamic extremists in Afghanistan when they were fighting the Russians (one of those groups was the Taliban). If you see the footage of [our] military advisors training them, using, exploiting and feeding their extremist ideology.
Arawaen
Um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm Angry. And I'm Armed.
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How could China ever get a UN resolution against it, it has veto power? The U.S. is always blocking resolutions against Israel, that is the reason there are no U.N. resolutions against that nation. I wouldn't be surprised if China blocks resolutions against N. Korea.
Iraq simply lacked a buddy on the security council (or actually lost their buddy, that being us). This is not to say that Iraq didn't deserve those resolutions and more.
Arawaen
Um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm Angry. And I'm Armed.
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Well I agree with all of you and you have good opinions, but are we all in agreeance that FOX is at least evil?
"You see the man hanging out of the spacehip with the really big gun, well its his will y'all should be thinking about now."
"I'm not immortal, I'm Infinitly prolonged."-Douglass Adams Spin off
My Best Friend can beat up your best friend.
My dad can outsmart your dad.
So they want to kill my men? Well, two can play at that game.
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Well I agree with all of you and you have good opinions, but are we all in agreeance that FOX is at least evil?
"You see the man hanging out of the spacehip with the really big gun, well its his will y'all should be thinking about now."
"I'm not immortal, I'm Infinitly prolonged."-Douglass Adams Spin off
My Best Friend can beat up your best friend.
My dad can outsmart your dad.
So they want to kill my men? Well, two can play at that game.
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