Heroes 2.0 [SPOILERS]
POSTED BY: deepgirl187
UPDATED: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:38
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Hey All
Can someone explain to me why everyone hates this show now? It's weird. I read the TV Watch on this at EW.com, and for some reason, everyone there is saying that so far the season has been lackluster and it sucks and that it's gone hugely downhill and all that, and I'm sitting there on Monday night, completely giddy at watching West and Claire hover between the letters of the Hollywood sign in a perfect homage to the "Can You Read My Mind" moment of SUPERMAN, intrigued with the painting of Noah dead and genuinely freaked out when Molly goes into shock and Matt can hear her screaming for him in her head and realizing that his Dad has kidnapped her. I think the show is just as good as ever. Plus, it's only been like four episodes in. You can't gauge the quality of a season by four beginning episodes. I like to think of it as exposition before getting into the real meat of the season, which guessing by the appearance of Kristen Bell next week is right around the corner.
Is anyone else baffled by this, or does anyone here actually think that season 2 of HEROES so far sucks? Because I don't, and I'm a huge HEROES fan.
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Originally posted by reginaroadie:
Is anyone else baffled by this, or does anyone here actually think that season 2 of HEROES so far sucks? Because I don't, and I'm a huge HEROES fan.
I think this season is great Regina! Weird.
Ask one or two of the posters what IS a good show on this fall season and why?
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I think that most people expect this season to be exactly like the first season, and thus, the dissing. American TV viewers don't tend to handle change that well. I think the show is going in a fascinating direction, but people don't want to be patient enough to see that happen.
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Oh, I am loving it! Sure, I miss "Odessa, Texas", but I'm flexible 
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Quote:Well, I certainly don’t. One thing this season seems to lack so far is the innocent discovery angle. I think last season everyone was interested in watching various heroes struggling to come to terms with extraordinary abilities. This season seems to be more about the more ominous side of things, and I’m not sure how much of that was intended and how much was forced on the writers by the network or by circumstance. I think the original intent was to have a much more evolving cast, than they ended up with, and I think that hurts them, especially with the critics. And right now the story is kind of disjointed, with several storylines that aren’t making a lot of sense – the same way it was last season at this time – but last season we were interested in the novelty of it. There problem is that there are just far too many main characters, but I think once the story gets started, things will pick up with the critics.
Originally posted by reginaroadie:
Is anyone else baffled by this, or does anyone here actually think that season 2 of HEROES so far sucks? Because I don't, and I'm a huge HEROES fan.
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Originally posted by reginaroadie:
I like to think of it as exposition before getting into the real meat of the season, which guessing by the appearance of Kristen Bell next week is right around the corner.
Is anyone else baffled by this, or does anyone here actually think that season 2 of HEROES so far sucks?
I think you've kinda answered your own question. Ordinaries aren't very patient. They want their gratification NOW!! Taking time to set the stage, slowly building up the drama and exposition. . . Most people (people-not-us) see that as "bad." They just want their action porn.
We, OTOH, have more sublime and refined tastes.
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I wasn't aware there was so much dissing about this season. People who followed the show last year should remember that things started off slowly then as well. It wasn't until characters' individual stories began to merge that things really coalesced. People who didn't watch from the beginning and decided to give the show a chance because of the buzz created last season may have been expecting super powered brawls each week. Then there are those types who enjoy bashing and want to be the first to say, "see, I told you all season 2 was going to suck".
I'm inclined to say to hell with all of them, they can watch some reality crap. The realist in me knows this isn't a good thing because then Heroes would be quickly canceled.
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Quote:I don’t think critics will decide when or if Heroes gets canceled. Ratings are what matters, and my understanding is that ratings for Heroes are still high in the 18-49 age group.
Originally posted by singate:
I'm inclined to say to hell with all of them, they can watch some reality crap. The realist in me knows this isn't a good thing because then Heroes would be quickly canceled.
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I don't dislike this season by any means, but I have been somewhat dissapointed. Too much wheel-spinning with the two most powerfull characters - Hiro and Peter.
Hiro's Japanese adventure has been extremely predictable so far, so even though I'm a fan of that era of history, and even a fan of David "Kensei" Anders, I've been somewhat bored by that storyline. That, and the logic errors have made it a bit hard to swallow - no one noticed for hundreds of years that the butt of the sword said "open me" and was filled with notes?
And Peter's amnesia is just infuriating. I find amnesia as a plot point to be lazy writing in general, but his "I don't want to know who I am" bit just reeked of a stalling move on the writer's part.
As cool as both characters are, I see this as being an ongoing problem, unless they can figure out a new dynamic pretty quick. Both of these guys can essentially do whatever they want (especially Peter), and just simply out-class all the other characters we've seen, in terms of power. There are just so many times that Hiro can loose control of his powers becuase his confidence is shaken. And Peter's amnesia can only hold out so long.
Oh, and the wonder twins are boring the hell out of me. I thought Nikki/Jessica's story was too directionless and meandering last year. These two easily top her. I hope Syler kills one or both of them soon.
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I got no problem with this season compared to last. I'm not finding the Hiro's hero storyline very engaging at all, but this series has a way of redeeming what look like silly set-ups. I expect I'll be pleased with what Hiro takes away from his Medieval Adventure.
I got no problem with Peter's amnesia, I have enough faith in the show to think the writers will prove to have "earned" it. And I even buy Peter's misgivings about finding out who he really is--can't imagine his psyche is/would be having a good time integrating "I blew up" too well.
I know there's a lot of folks who find Superman level powers "boring" or "impossible to write for" but I find the subject kinda fascinating (I grant there have been many tremendous failures, but I don't think the subject has been exhausted therefore, by any means). To me, it's a lot like assuming that rich people have perfect stress-free lives. There's a lot more to being human than having lots and lots of what someone calls "power." I think they did a very good job of showing us Peter's flaws and troubles that go beyond being able to fly/shoot lightning/go invisible/blow up, etc.
I'm really hoping that the plot this season begins to explain my biggest question from last season, namely: what the heck was it that made the last generation of super people go so bad (excepting Charles, of course--loved his conversation out of time with Peter about love)? I mean, here we got a guy who can make lame men walk and blind men see and he's running casinos and taking out contracts on people? What happened there?
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