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Characterization issues - Inara

POSTED BY: AgentRouka
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Wednesday, October 17, 2007 7:52 PM

My biggest problem with Inara's characterization is when people feel compelled to turn her into a wailing fish-wife (a point I'm sure has been brought up millions of times). I've seen this usually take place in fics where Mal is paired with another crew member. Inara was a strong character, IMO, and it does her a huge disservice to portray her in this way.

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Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:16 PM

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
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Hi! *waves*

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Just to that bit there: How much, do you think, does her Buddhist faith figure into that reserved, calm behavior? Does it, at all?
Hmmm... I know nothing of Buddhism, and I'm not a religious person myself. I guess I've assumed that her faith just gives the Guild an exotic flavor and makes for pretty sets and stuff. I hadn't thought about how Inara's traits could be based in religious beliefs...

Someone should write a fic about that. It seems reasonable, and I'd like to learn something about Buddhism.

As for my take, I see her reserve as something intentionally designed to appeal to clients. I mean, the thing I like about this whole idea of the Guild and Companions is that they aren't just selling sex, and they are truly proud of what they do. (Which is why I, like others above, don't like the Inara is secretly ashamed and just waiting for Mal to love her and take her away from all this storyline.) A Companion serves as almost a sage, a guide, a therapist even. Inara brings a boy to manhood and comforts a woman who feels trapped in a man's world. (Ath doesn't really count - he was clearly a bad choice!)

So I think of Inara as someone who's always had a kind of maternal skill with people, but didn't want or couldn't have a family of her own. Joining the Guild enabled her to play the role of nurturer, to have deeply personal interactions with people in a controlled, safe way. And it comes with a pretty swank lifestyle, which I don't think she minds. She's not stupid.

Honestly, I can't divide how much of this is canon and how much I've made up for myself. Like you, AR, I've created my own image of Inara. I suppose we have to, since we know so little about her.

EDIT: Wytchcroft - I agree that there just has to be male Companions. I don't like gender un-balance in Joss's world!

Re the bland - NOW I don't think she's bland, but the first few times watching the series I did. I mean only to explain why people who aren't as obsessed as us writers might not like her. Well... I do still find her character less entertaining than the rest, but I think that would have changed when her depth was put out there for us, instead of hinted at. And I think Morena has a whole lotta range that she never got to show us.

CURSE FOX!!!

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Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:52 PM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:

...A Companion serves as almost a sage, a guide, a therapist even. Inara brings a boy to manhood and comforts a woman who feels trapped in a man's world. (Ath doesn't really count - he was clearly a bad choice!)





I completely agree with your assessment of the Companion profession. To me, being a Companion is about art, beauty, and pleasure. Companions are not prostitutes in the sense that they fulfill sexual urges but they provide a beautiful pleasurable experience that satisfies the mind as well as the body.

The Core planets are the height of enlightenment. It seems to me that attitudes toward sex would have progressed to the point that Inara probably never even heard the word "whore" until she left Sihnon. BTW, I HATE that word and I cringe every time Mal says it. (Yet I still love him!)

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Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:26 PM

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To me, being a Companion is about art, beauty, and pleasure. Companions are not prostitutes in the sense that they fulfill sexual urges but they provide a beautiful pleasurable experience that satisfies the mind as well as the body.



agreed in principle - certainly we have evidence of Inara's refinements but i think it would depend very much on the client as to the nature of the experience. And those we see with inara (in firefly) are poles apart from each other.

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The Core planets are the height of enlightenment.


this can be argued against - see the 'actually - yes... where are the women in the Alliance? i could've sworn i saw some but when i looked at firefly again....' posts of a while ago!:)

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It seems to me that attitudes toward sex would have progressed to the point that Inara probably never even heard the word "whore" until she left Sihnon.


or had been taught to reclaim it???

BTW, I HATE that word and I cringe every time Mal says it. (Yet I still love him!)


Absofrackinglutely!:)

And coming from he who was Caleb... shudders...

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Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:14 AM

Coming back to the issue of... Is the Guild completely good or is it (potentially) an oppressive institution...

I enjoy seeing it portrayed both ways - depending on the fic.

We really don't know enough about it to say either way. Like any large, powerful institution, I think the Guild could be realistically portrayed as both.

Inara is obviously a shining example of everything good about the Guild. But the whole implied "shunning" of ex-Companions leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

Also, while I understand that intensive training might be necessary, the idea of a child being put through rigorous training like that makes me sad. I wonder about all the things Inara might have missed out on.

Now onto the sex for money issue...

I should state that I believe a person's body is her own to do with what she pleases, and I am intrigued with the notion of Inara's role as a therapist. I found the Fess Higgins storyline in "Jaynestown" to be sweet and uplifting.

But in contrast, let's look at "Shindig" and Atherton Wing. I have a sneaking suspicion that many of Inara's clients are like him. Perhaps they don't resort to the violence and overt chauvenistic attitude that he does - but men are men.

Some things to discuss:

Can one pay or receive payment for something intimate like sex and not cheapen it or devalue it in the process?

Does the sex mean the same thing to Inara as it does to her clients?

If Inara continued to take clients while she was with Mal, would that devalue the intimacy that they share? Would it be a betrayal?

While I admire the ideas behind "Companioning", I keep coming back to what Mal said in "Our Mrs. Reynolds": "She's a human woman. She's not to be borrowed, nor lent, nor bartered." Or... something like that.

The issue confuzzles me. But it is fascinating.

So. Um... back to the main topic - if it's well-written, if it's plausible, if Inara sounds like a grown-up and not a moony teenager, there's room to explore. It's all about the ability of the writer to pull it off and make it believable.



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Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by EmpireX:

Some things to discuss:

Can one pay or receive payment for something intimate like sex and not cheapen it or devalue it in the process?



everything of value can be exchanged...
and every exchange can have value.


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Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
I guess I've assumed that her faith just gives the Guild an exotic flavor and makes for pretty sets and stuff. I hadn't thought about how Inara's traits could be based in religious beliefs...

Someone should write a fic about that. It seems reasonable, and I'd like to learn something about Buddhism.




I don't know much about Buddhism, but I am really interested in religious studies and women's roles in various religions. I've read about "sacred prostitution" in which men would bring an offering to a goddess' temple and sleep with the priestess in order to achieve a religious experience or obtain elightenment. I think it would have made more sense for Joss to have written Inara as a devotee of one of these ancient goddesses rather than as a Buddhist.



"Can you, for a moment, imagine how depressing it is to teach one thousand years of masculine ineptitude? Why do you think there are so few women historians? I'll tell you why. Because history is not such a frolic for women as it is for men... History is a commentary on the various and continuing incapabilities of men. History is women following behind with a bucket and a mop." - Alan Bennett, "The History Boys"

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Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:16 AM

Buddhist nuns are not prostitutes, but many prostitutes are Buddhists (and Catholics, and...).
Buddhism fits nicely into the 'Verse because of the Chinese influence in the series. It was not ever an integral part of Buddhism, so far as I am aware. Christians would have a little more trouble with the whorin' and whatnot. Inara is Buddhist because it makes sense for her to be so. Companions are heavily based on the Geisha (Japan also had just plain old prostitutes, Geisha are special)... again, from a culture that is heavily influenced by Buddhism.

The sacred prostitutes we are most familiar with today are more the Graeco-Roman pantheists. The Vestal Virgins are sort of the antithesis of this.

Women would serve for a time in the temples of the fertility/mother goddesses. If a man wanted to pray for his wife to concieve, or flocks to have a good lambing, or anything else that fell under Her auspices, he could try a special appeal (so to speak). The union was an act of piety, men would bring offerings to the goddesses, any children conceived during such a visit would be cherished as special by the mother and welcomed as a blessing into her family.
Or so I have read hither, thither and yon.

Inara is a shrewd businesswoman, an accomplished individual in many areas, and not liable to back down from anyone or anything unless it is expedient or will suit her purposes. She is a master of manipulation of others and not to be underestimated.
Oh, those wiles!

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Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:17 PM

What I always liked in Inara is that she's got that sense of mystery in her which makes you curious about her past and gives you the feeling that she only found freedom in Serenity. I think she worries about that because she hasn’t got used to show her true feelings and that frightens her... Not to mention that the tension with Mal hasn't made it any easier for her, I also noticed that she only gives out she's alone and nobody could see her (ref. to HoG among others). I try to take those things out in my fics as much as possible.

Also about fics... Personally, I find Inara's characterization a bit difficult and often soften her up a bit to bug the reader then show him the reason to that so that he/she understands.

Then again, as you all know I'm an M/I shipper so... I’m really fond of her =)

Keep flying ;)


Kim

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Friday, October 19, 2007 2:45 AM

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this can be argued against - see the 'actually - yes... where are the women in the Alliance? i could've sworn i saw some but when i looked at firefly again....' posts of a while ago!:)



Good point. Where are the women? I can't help but feel that they are certainly there. If only %#$% Fox hadn't rudely cancelled our show we'd get to see the women in power. Both good and evil.

I really would have liked to have seen more about the Guild and Inara's past. Maybe in the sequel? (fingers crossed)

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