Globalization
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Quote:It’s not about you, and it never was.
Originally posted by rue:
And, I see you too have nothing substantive to add to this thread, choosing to make it about me.
However, overregulating the economy does NOT provide for a fair system. That much we know for a fact. Without income disparity, everyone is poor. Without all those rich people socialists hate so much, no one has any jobs. You throw a fit because you have to work hard for a living while others don’t, but without that disparity in the system there is no potential for wealth to flow. It’s not about you, but many people have a hard time separating themselves from the system. If they have to work hard for a living or if they have to deal with issues in their life, then the system doesn’t work. That’s the way people look at the economy – they make it about themselves. You probably make middle class income – but what about the guy who is living on $7 an hour? You compare yourself to mustache twirling types and claim the system is unfair, but my guess is that the system has probably worked much better for you then you’ll admit. I know a guy who makes better than $250 grand a year, he says the same things you do. He has to provide for his family. He has too many bills to pay. For some people that $80/month insurance payment they have to make on a $500 car is breaking them, for others its the $1000/month car payment on that Mercedes that’s breaking them. Everyone’s got money problems. When I started out in life I was a dirt poor Irish boy on the streets of Detroit. My single mother raised three kids below the poverty line – today I have a huge house on a hill overlooking a wilderness, a nice car and enough money to take regular trips to Italy. Not bad for a dirt poor Irish boy. Of course I have a family to take care of and too many bills to pay just like everyone else – it’s not that I don’t feel your pain; it’s that I have a completely different view of what unfair means.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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"Yes, wealth is always okay as long as it’s yours."
Pretty personal, asswipe. And I TAKE it personally.
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Quote:Take it any way you want. You’re the only one investing in personal attacks here. And you’re just pissed because you know I’m right.
Originally posted by rue:
"Yes, wealth is always okay as long as it’s yours."
Pretty personal, asswipe. And I TAKE it personally.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:So what did people do in the millenia before capitalism?
Without income disparity, everyone is poor. Without all those rich people socialists hate so much, no one has any jobs.
Nothing?
Finn, you might not want to comment on something you obviously know nothing about. Do some research, give it some thought before you make sweeping - and blatantly wrong- generalizations.
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"And you’re just pissed because you know I’m right."
I'm pissed b/c you're an lying sack of crap. I sacrificed MY personal benefit over the last decades for people who need the help.
As for you ...
YOU'RE A SMALL PATHETIC DICK WHO CAN'T GET ANYTHING UP EXCEPT A LIE.
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Quote:You’re kidding, right? You actually think that before Adam Smith there was no such thing as rich people or that those rich people didn’t control the wealth of everyone else? There is a theory concerning the decline of the WRE which has gained prominence among scholars since the 50s, which basically observes that the fall of the WRE coincided with the development of a wealthy elite class in barbarian societies preceding economic growth in what was otherwise a subsistence level economy, leading to a swelling of barbarian numbers with better armed and trained militaries. In fact, I would go as far as to say that there has never been a civilization whose economy was not completely dependent on the existence of a wealthy class, above the agrarian subsistence level. Maybe you need to take some of your own advice and do some research.
Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:So what did people do in the millenia before capitalism?
Without income disparity, everyone is poor. Without all those rich people socialists hate so much, no one has any jobs.
Quote:Anyone whose intellectual acumen doesn’t exist above the level of a 13 year old boy is probably not very certain of their own point of view. You’re just pissed because know I’m right.
Originally posted by rue:
"And you’re just pissed because you know I’m right."
I'm pissed b/c you're an lying sack of crap. I sacrificed MY personal benefit over the last decades for people who need the help.
As for you ...
YOU'RE A SMALL PATHETIC DICK WHO CAN'T GET ANYTHING UP EXCEPT A LIE.
Oh, and I’m sure your sacrifice was not unappreciated by those you helped. I’ve never doubted that you were a good person, unlike the personal insults you levy against me, but none of that changes what I’ve said.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:So what you're saying is that capitalism isn't necessary. Right?
You’re kidding, right? You actually think that before Adam Smith there was no such thing as rich people or that those rich people didn’t control the wealth of everyone else? There is a theory concerning the decline of the WRE which has gained prominence among scholars since the 50s, which basically observes that the fall of the WRE coincided with the development of a wealthy elite class in barbarian societies preceding economic growth in what was otherwise a subsistence level economy, leading to a swelling of barbarian numbers with better armed and trained militaries. In fact, I would go as far as to say that there has never been a civilization whose economy was not completely dependent on the existence of a wealthy class, above the agrarian subsistence level.
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Quote:I don't think Finn really deserves this particular can of whoop-ass, Rue, but I can see this is a HIGHLY touchy personal issue. I think we can all appreciate your selflessness in the face of adversity here.
Originally posted by rue:
I'm pissed b/c you're an lying sack of crap. I sacrificed MY personal benefit over the last decades for people who need the help.
Just tryin' to inject a little ease into a tense bunch of posts for my fellow Browncoats...
For what it's worth Chrisisall
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Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
So what you're saying is that capitalism isn't necessary. Right?
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Money isn't nescessary if it comes to that. You could always get paid in goods you could then barter. It wouldn't be convenient but it's perfectly possible.
The "innovation" of capitalism is the idea that money is a commodity that can be "bought, sold and traded" like any other material. Before that folks still had money, still traded with one another and there were still rich and poor people. I'm not sure that those were better systems from the point of view of wealth distribution or political freedom. I think you'd be better off positing a "post" capitalist society if you hope to find a fairer system.
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"Yes, wealth is always okay as long as it’s yours."
THIS IS PERSONAL. There is NOTHING about this that ISN'T personal. Tell me Finn, how does this relate to the discussion about globalization. asswipe.
"You’re the only one investing in personal attacks here."
THIS IS A LIE Tell me Finn how you post this after you just level a personal attack that had NOTHING to do with the topic.
"And you’re just pissed because you know I’m right."
AND THIS IS BOTH A LIE AND A PERSONAL ATTACK.
So Finn, you're the one who pretends to be moral and religious. When you look in the mirror how do you justify your transgressions against this
'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.'
OR THIS
'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'
So not only are you a petty egomaniac ready to sacrifice your integrity to win a minor point on an anonymous board, you're a hypocrite.
Good on you. You should be very proud of all you've accomplished.
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