Globalization
POSTED BY: deepgirl187
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 26, 2025 22:20
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Originally posted by rue:
And you ? What have you done with your pathetic little life ?
I certainly have not railed against capitalism while enjoying it's fruits.
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Is your new name 'stupid' ? I'm not a capitalist. I'm a worker and a consumer. I haven't been 'enjoying the fruits' - most of my life has been a 60-80 hour a week struggle to obtain the necessities - incuding education and health care - for me and my family.
Now go away and jerk off.
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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."
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Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
Is your new name 'stupid' ? I'm not a capitalist. I'm a worker and a consumer.
With 'substantial' land holdings and investments in precious metal. Do you derive income from your land? Will you re-invest the profits when your gold hits $850? You sound like a capitalist to me, or at the very least a believer in capitalism. I guess wealth is okay in your eyes as long as it involves you and your family.
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I would give it all away tomorrow if it would guarantee a fair world.
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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."
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So, let's see Nobody
You're an admitted troll, you're a failure in life, and you lick the boot that kicks you. And as usual you have zip to add to the topic. You've got quite a lot going on - don't you.
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"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."
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Yes, wealth is always okay as long as it’s yours. The problem with socialism is that it’s just a new word for the age old Aristocracy. A socialist economy is one in which a small wealthy few control the wealth of everyone else – basically the worst parts of capitalism wrapped up in a sweet smelling euphemism by people who claim they want a fair world, but aren’t willing to sacrifice their own wealth to achieve that. It’s a system that fails before it can even start, because ultimately the capitalist philosophy is only practical philosophy. And in practice a well run capitalist system, like the one in the US, has guaranteed more wealth for more people, then any socialist system before it.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Live it up while you still can. Globalization allowed America to have the biggest and longest party the world has ever seen. Nowhere to go but down now.
Why, do you suppose, we're paying $3.00/gal of gas and $3.50 per gallon of milk?
Won't be long till we all have the real ID too, likely because the UN mandates we have it. It will double as the prophesized Mark of the Beast, without which none of us will be able to work or purchase food.
America is no longer in control of America. We are owned by multi-national corporations and that 9 Trillion dollar debt you hear about all of the time, well... the 20-30% of our pay that most of us give Uncle Sam every year means that 20-30% of our work each year is slave labor which only goes to pay the interest off on that debt we all owe.
Fuck globalization.
EDITED TO ADD: To further elaborate on my "Fuck Globalization" stance, I submit the following article. We're going to let these bastards use money to dictate how we do things here. This is only the beginning.
http://www.itnews.com.au/Tools/Print.aspx?CIID=94400
US FACES $100 BILLION FINE FOR WEB GAMING BAN
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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Finn
First of all, I am NOT wealthy - virtually all of my assets are in a special trust fund.
Second, I am NOT privileged - I've worked hard to have anything in this life, and continue to work hard. That makes me a worker, not a capitalist.
Third, I'm trying to provide for the needs of a disabled person after I'm dead and gone. If I lived in a fair society I wouldn't have to do that.
Hence, what I said above - I would give it ALL away tomorrow if it would guarantee a fair world. In that world, I wouldn't need to be working the hours I work, scrimping as I scrimp and investing for a future I won't be alive to see.
And, I see you too have nothing substantive to add to this thread, choosing to make it about me.
So I choose to make it about you.
You're an idiot for your assumptions. A coward for bending over for the system. And an asswipe, just for being you.
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Bend over little man - oh, and trust me.
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Quote:Ah don't be jealous. I'm definitely NOT in the top 1% and neither is Rue. I make my money just like everybody else: by working. My investments- such as they are- are an insubstantial part of my income, such as it is. I didn't make the system, I certainly don't support it. I hope for a better system, one that realizes that civilization and society are good things, and that we don't have to be pitted against each other in a brutal and occassionally deadly competition that we didn't set up. But I have to survive it and see to my child's future.
Sounds like things are going pretty well up there in the top 1% Signy and Rue.
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Quote:What you're describing is a declining trend.
And consequently that item becomes cheaper and more people can afford it than before. So you sell more of it and create more wealth.
The problem with capitalism is that it's a unstable system- boom and bust. IF the consuming public has a lot of cash in-hand (as happened after WWII with the GI benefits) then purchases increase, which leads to increased production, increased hiring and investment, and more purchases. That's the upside that Fletch2 is trying to describe. BUT once the consuming public has spent their free cash (and credit) then purchases decline, people get laid off, and purchases decline even further. That's the downside. It's an oscillator.
Capitalism is pulled by consumption, not pushed by investment. If you give a businessman higher profits in a declining market, is he going to increase production and hire more people? No, more likely he's going to invest in something that reduces wages even further. If that happens across the board (by government policy) then you've set off a recession, or worse. So higher profits are not the answer to a slow economy, they cause it to unwind even faster.
It doesn't take a genius to see that the USA has "pulled" the economies of Europe, Japan, and China by being the world's most profligate consumer. But now that our Treasury is bankrupt, our production is reduced, and our interest rates are artifically low (to keep our own economy floating) the dollar inevitable had to lose value. And it will continue to lose value until we (both as individuals and as a nation) are put on sound footing: Improve the minimum wage, reduce profit margins, put $$$ back into the hands of consumers, and stop irrational government spending.
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