Heroes 2.0 [SPOILERS]
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UPDATED: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:38
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Quote:I don’t see any reason to think that that is the case. Mama Patrelli is never easy to read, because she’s a member of the syndicate. She might turn up next week having known everything. Nathan is easier to read and I think he’s grief is genuine.
Originally posted by pdcharles:
If this was covered in an earlier post, I’m sorry… But, Do you think Nathan and his Mom think Peter is dead or are they doing a good job of covering it up for his own safety?
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Just saw the entire show for the first time for free on Netflix over the past few days. Got a lot to say/think about, but I just wanted to get this in:
I don't think the Haitian had anything to do with Peter's amnesia. As we saw with Claude Rains, Peter's absorption ability makes it so he's "in" on whatever power is being used against him. He was the only person who could see Claude, and he wasn't frozen in time/space when Future-Hiro stopped time on the subway. If the Haitian ever tried to erase his memory, Pete would simply pick up the power himself.
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Quote:I don’t think the Haitian had anything to do with Peter’s amnesia either. It’s not his MO. The Haitian memory washing ability has always indiscriminately eliminated memories in sequential order of acquisition from the time the washing occurred. Peter can’t remember many basic facts about his own person including his own name. How could the Haitian have removed memory Peter’s memory of his own name, without turning Peter into the mental equivalent of a one year old? It doesn’t make any sense.
Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Just saw the entire show for the first time for free on Netflix over the past few days. Got a lot to say/think about, but I just wanted to get this in:
I don't think the Haitian had anything to do with Peter's amnesia. As we saw with Claude Rains, Peter's absorption ability makes it so he's "in" on whatever power is being used against him. He was the only person who could see Claude, and he wasn't frozen in time/space when Future-Hiro stopped time on the subway. If the Haitian ever tried to erase his memory, Pete would simply pick up the power himself.
However, I don’t agree that there is any reason to believe that the Haitian’s memory washing ability wouldn’t work on Peter. Peter would acquire the ability, but does that necessarily mean that Peter’s memory wouldn’t be removed? In fact, if Peter’s ability resides as memory, then the Haitian could effectively prevent Peter from acquiring the ability by washing it from Peter’s mind.
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Is it just me, or is there something...off about West? I don't know what it is, but I don't like him.
It seems that Sylar hasn't given up his homicidal ways. But I do find it interesting that he introduced himself as Gabriel. Also wondering what the significance of the cockroaches is.
Matt's father as one of the evil parents. This kind of reminds me of Runaways (all of the main characters have evil parents). I wonder if his dad's power is somehow connected to Molly's (kind of like Alejandro and Maya).
And as a former wrestling fan, seeing Micah's cousin (can't remember her name) do the 619 completely rocked out. 
It seems Ms. Bell will be a villain. Any reactions from VM fans?
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Originally posted by deepgirl187:
Is it just me, or is there something...off about West?
I don't know what it is, but I don't like him.It seems Ms. Bell will be a villain. Any reactions from VM fans?
Yes, I'm looking forward to seeing her next week, she does seem to be evil.
What if West was the one that killed Hiro's dad, I mean the person who killed him seemed to have a flying power or something to help him escape the fall. And to me, the person who pushed him looked kinda young.
And there is just something I don't trust about him.
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There is wrong and then there's wrong...and man was I wrong. Every single one of my predictions was a complete whiff. Three strikes and I'm out, didn't even manage a foul tip. Now that's just bad.
On to the episode. I still don't trust West. Usually when a guy pulls the stunts he's pulling it is to get in a girl's pants but I believe he is working towards a more sinister purpose. I'm not liking what Claire is turning into. She's starting to remind me of what I thought she was going to be at the beginning of season 1. It also looks like HRG is back to his old tricks.
I sure did not forsee Parkman's father as the big bad. If his ability is what I think it is he reminds me of The Shadow King from the X-men comics. He may be forcing others with abilities to do the hands on work for him.
I don't quite know what to make of Sylar, or should I say Gabriel. For a few moments he appeared to show some regret. Don't know if it was genuine remorse about what he has done or him lamenting the apparent loss of his abilities. Whatever his motives may be he is playing a dangerous game with the wonder twins.
Micah's cousin appears to have an ability quite similar to the one Gabriel started out with. I wonder if only pertains to learning physical skills or if she will be able to learn to use other abilities a la Peter and Sylar.
Next week's episode looks very promising.
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Great episode!
I agree, there is just something off about West. Can't put my finger on it yet, but there certainly seems to be more to him than what we are seeing so far. Claire's lying to her dad repeatedly is starting to take her down a path that is not too pretty.
What are Noah and the Haitian up to. Why are they heading to Odessa, TX? How are they funding the Bennett's lifestyle and his side missions? Obviously some squirreled away money. Perhaps a secret company fund he built?
What is with the horrible burn reflection we keep seeing of Nathan in the mirror? Was he wounded when Peter blew over NYC, but somehow healed? Is he losing it? Hope he gets it back on track. Like his mother said, he is looking for redemption, let's just hope it doesn't come with his death.
What convinced Molly to look for Matt's dad, the "Nightmare Man"? She was so adamant that she wouldn't do it, but then seemed to change her mind easily enough. I agree that Matt's dad's ability does remind me somewhat of the Shadow King from the X-Men. How did he trap Molly? In her own mind? Could it be Matt's potential is as yet untapped? Are his powers hereditary?
Sylar! Boo! Hiss! I hate that guy! Why won't he just die already! Was it the company that had him in the jungles of Central America? If so why did they not take more precautions in securing him? I hope he doesn't kill the twins.
Micah's cousin has photographic reflexes! That is so freakin' cool! I want that power! If she sees it done she can duplicate the skill herself flawlessly. Just like Taskmaster from the Marvel Universe. She could watch martial arts exhibitions and become one kickbutt fighter.
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Quote:Television people often live more opulent lifestyles then reality would suggest, so I’m not sure what to think of Bennett’s big house. But certainly a house like that in Southern California would cost virgin blood on the solstice. And I don’t think they’re going to Odessa Texas – I thought they said something about the Ukraine.
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
What are Noah and the Haitian up to. Why are they heading to Odessa, TX? How are they funding the Bennett's lifestyle and his side missions? Obviously some squirreled away money. Perhaps a secret company fund he built?
I’m going to hope it does come with Nathan’s death, but it probably won’t.
Molly hardly needed a reason to change her mind about searching for Matt’s dad. Little girls are easily convinced of just about anything. Now Suresh is going to hate Matt, and Matt is going to hate himself and they’ll both hate Matt’s father.
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Originally posted by singate:
I'm not liking what Claire is turning into. She's starting to remind me of what I thought she was going to be at the beginning of season 1.
Let's be fair here. If Claire is developing a penchant for lying, it had to be learned. And since her mother and brother don't exactly fit the profile, who would that teacher be? Lying has been such a common occurrence in her family, it's probably becoming second nature to Claire. And it's not like Noah has been up front recently either. It's only fair to spread the blame in this situation equally.
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Yeah, it does look like Nathan truly believes Peter is dead. But, still not convinced about his mother. She wants Parkman to “let it go”. She didn’t let him know about his father and clearly knows about him. For his safety? Or another master plan?
Great Shadow King catch. I think that is what is going on with Matt's dad. Maybe West DID kill Hiro's dad by being controlled by him. Maybe he is controlling Peter’s mom now after the attack. (being that her wounds were self inflicted) She did have an evil look in her eye as she was wheeled off.
On Sylar:
I was wrong, he is not still under any illusion.
Possibilities -
He is still not sure if he can absorb powers so is waiting to kill them.
Or Prolly keeping the twins alive until he understands their power more
Or Plans to kill the brother so he can be the only one to stop the pestilence once it starts.
And Boy does he like killin’ peeps with blunt objects.
I was thinking when he killed the driver, he would start speaking fluent Spanish because the guy knew it or something to give us a clue his power was back. We did hear the clock ticking noise before he killed him and saw the cockroach. Were they clues that it is back? (can’t remember if we heard this when he killed Candace)
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