Which was the better ship?

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HELLBOY

Saturday, April 10, 2004 5:14 AM

This may be the wrong place to post this, but here it goes anyway.

Probably the two best Sci-FI shows of the last ten years, are Farscape, and Firefly. Each one has a few things in common with each other, and certainly, the ships are one. So here is the question.....

Which was the better ship, Serenity, or Moya?

Explain yourselves!

VETERAN

Saturday, April 10, 2004 5:45 AM

It's not a fair comparison. First of all, they're differnent classes, Moya is a ship-of-the-line, Serenity is transport. Second, Moya is living thing.

That being said, I prefer Serenity. I just like her lines. Moya has a very simplistic shape. Serenity has a shape to her.

SNEAKER98

Saturday, April 10, 2004 5:48 AM

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Originally posted by Veteran:
It's not a fair comparison. First of all, they're differnent classes, Moya is a ship-of-the-line, Serenity is transport. Second, Moya is living thing.

That being said, I prefer Serenity. I just like her lines. Moya has a very simplistic shape. Serenity has a shape to her.

Serenity is a work of art. Built for what she does, and that makes her beautiful in my eyes.

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SEVENPERCENT

Saturday, April 10, 2004 5:57 AM

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Originally posted by Hellboy:
This may be the wrong place to post this, but here it goes anyway.

Probably the two best Sci-FI shows of the last ten years, are Farscape, and Firefly. Each one has a few things in common with each other, and certainly, the ships are one. So here is the question.....

Which was the better ship, Serenity, or Moya?

Explain yourselves!

Ya know, I hate to be the buzzkill here, but you forgot one from my other favorite series, Bab5 - I'd vote for Serenity any day, but I gotta throw shout out some love to the White Star if you're going for the past 10 yrs-

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LEMAT

Saturday, April 10, 2004 7:43 AM

Veteran,
My understanding is that Moya is also an unarmed transport, even if she was in peacekeeper service. "Ship-of-the-line" pretty much means a major combatant vessel,like an Alliance crusier or a Peacekeeper Command Carrier, one that would form in the 'line of battle' during the age of sailing ships or battleships. So the two are comprable on that level. Moya is much bigger, it seems, so we don't see the people moving about inside the same familiar spaces, but, rather, going down hallways that I can't tell apart; one might as well be wathcing Star Trek in that regard. That, and Moya's moodswings--or whatever that is when she and pilot won't do as they are told--make me favor Serenity. She has a personality the same way a ship or car or plane does (Kaylee seems tp think she does, at least), but she can't sass back at you and kill you in the process.

Jon

TALONPEST

Saturday, April 10, 2004 7:50 AM

I didn't like Moya at all. I mean, they said she was an organic ship, but I just didn't get the sense that she was alive at all. And design wise, she lacked any real distinguishing features.

Serenity, to be honest, isn't my favorite ship either. But she's got style- she's clearly made to resemble a horse, plus the firefly butt. She's very distinctive- hell, she stood out when she flew by in the background in that 2 second shot in Battlestar Galactica.

Serenity wins hands down.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, April 10, 2004 12:52 PM

Not sure they are comparable, as Moya was so much larger, but here goes.

Firefly is a mutt. A chimera - part bird, part insect. Besides that, she's also a clunker. I simply don't see how she even flys in atmo, having the aerodynamics of a locomotive engine.

Moya is sleek and stylish. She's built for a spin around the 'verse. And oh yeah, she has that whole living/symbiotic thing going for (or against )her.

So, how to decide? I think what helps Serenity become a better ship is those who fly her. The more they put in, the more she gives back. Kaylee and Wash showed as much in 'Serenity' . Moya,on the other hand, might as well be flying around by herself, + her pilot. Beyond that, what does she care who's on the ship?

So, if you're like Book, and think the destination isn't nearly as important as is how one gets there...take Serenity.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. Worked that out myself. "

EMBERS

Saturday, April 10, 2004 1:53 PM

I'd vote for Serenity, not because she is sleek or efficient or even clean(!) but because she reminds me of my desire to see the world from a freighter (and how much better to see the universe from a Firefly!). I'd love to get onto a rough anonymous freight carrying vessel and head off to unknown lands and adventures... I have no interest in seeing the world from a cruise ship or some other fancy luxury liner!

Okay, maybe it is unfair to call Moya a luxury cruiser...but she lacks the rough and tough look of the 'crate' that is Serenity!

STATIC

Saturday, April 10, 2004 3:08 PM

Before I started driving the damn things, I was a crew chief on AH-64's, and before that, I was a crew chief on UH-1's and OH-58's (utility and observation helicopters, respectively) and I have to agree with what others have said. . .

Serenity is a SHIP. Moya is a critter who ACTS like a ship. . .when she's in the mood. The rest of the time, she can be pretty cantankerous. Serenity, was cantankerous at times, but Kaylee wiggled this dingus and adjusted that widget and she flew fine.

"Voodoo Child" is my baby. . .she's MY Serenity. . .and when she gets ornery, Spidermonkey comes out, replaces this dingus and repairs that widget, says a few pretty words to her and she does me just fine. I guess I prefer Serenity to Moya because Serenity is a true ship. . .and acted more like a lady than Moya often did.

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CYBERSNARK

Saturday, April 10, 2004 4:10 PM

Frankly, I have a lot of favourite ships. How some guys feel about cars, I feel about ships.

Serenity has a lot of character built into her, and I like that.

Moya is much more alien, which I also like (a personal fondness, I admit). Also, Pilot is one of my fave SF characters anywhere.

The Whitestar from Bab5 may not be particularly powerful of have much personality, but she has dazzling speed and a beautiful design in her favour.

Also, the Millennium Falcon has most of Serenity's charm, plus weapons (cliché, I know, but there you are).

Absolute favourite ship (in my absolute most disappointing show) must be the Andromeda Ascendant, from the "could've been great" Andromeda. A more aesthetically pleasing design than even the Whitestar, better performance than any Enterprise, a shipboard AI that's much more user-friendly (and snarky ) than Moya, and loaded with fussy machinery that could keep Kaylee busy for years (plus, Harper [Rommie's engineer] is like Wash on a dozen espressos ). Too bad writing sucks after S1.

Also, it comes with the Eureka Maru, a battered old freighter that would be right at home in the Firefly-verse.

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