Serenity cops a beating on Maxim.com

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REGINAROADIE

Thursday, October 4, 2007 5:23 PM

OK, so Maxim isn't exactly the New York Times in terms of journalistic integrity. And I do think that whoever wrote this is ignorant of the legacy of FIREFLY (If no one truly watched it, then why is there such a huge following that made a loud enough voice to warrant a feature length movie).

But I do agree that the title is somewhat misleading, if only on a surface level. I mean, remember the TV ad's for the movie. It was all big action and testosterone with the volume cranked up way past 11, and then it ends with "SERENITY". If I were a regular joe blow who had never heard of FIREFLY or SERENITY beforehand, I would have been confused too with the ads as well. Plus, if you think about it, FIREFLY was a misleading title for the series as well. It's only mentioned two times that the ship was a Firefly class transport. And the fact that this ship is that is a rather insignificant detail. So why name a series after that?

Most likely it was just a title that was chosen just so that they'd have a title.

But I think SERENITY is something of an apt title.

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PDCHARLES

Thursday, October 4, 2007 5:29 PM

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Dont get me wrong...But I think your all being thin skinned.

All? It seems most in here are just saying that maxim is "this" and "that". ...and not to worry about it.

...and to your point, we too can have opinions about that magazine as well as they can have opinions on the movie title.

...and to express that the scantily clad women on MY coffee table are REAL.

CANTER

Thursday, October 4, 2007 5:30 PM

I'm actually impressed that *any* reference to Serenity made in into Maxim.

I don't know what other films made it into the article, but it seems to me that, no matter how snide it might be, it's still an acknowledgement of the fact that a movie was made. And of the fact that that movie was made due to the efforts of fans.

I don't care if the writer doesn't like the idea. He's spreading the signal, knowingly or not.

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REGINAROADIE

Thursday, October 4, 2007 5:33 PM

Yeah.

And to have to admit, Firefly Fans and the Last-Ditch Write-In Campaign is kind of funny, if only just to make fun of how overzealous we and normal sci-fi geeks can get.

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DARKFLY

Thursday, October 4, 2007 5:49 PM

Dude its f*cking Maxim all those type of mags are a load of bullshit with no ounce of journalism.

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Thursday, October 4, 2007 6:01 PM

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Originally posted by reginaroadie:
OK, so Maxim isn't exactly the New York Times in terms of journalistic integrity.

Boy is that true. but who buys it for the articles anyway?

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But I do agree that the title is somewhat misleading, if only on a surface level. I mean, remember the TV ad's for the movie. It was all big action and testosterone with the volume cranked up way past 11, and then it ends with "SERENITY". If I were a regular joe blow who had never heard of FIREFLY or SERENITY beforehand, I would have been confused too with the ads as well. Plus, if you think about it, FIREFLY was a misleading title for the series as well. It's only mentioned two times that the ship was a Firefly class transport. And the fact that this ship is that is a rather insignificant detail. So why name a series after that?

How many titles are chosen that have anything to do with the subject? Star Trek only had ONE version that had anything to do with the actual show, and that was Enterprise. The other series(as far as I can recall) never said they were on a "star Trek".
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Most likely it was just a title that was chosen just so that they'd have a title.

But I think SERENITY is something of an apt title.

IMO, the title fit, because of what Zoe said in the deleted scenes on the series disks: "you never leave(Serenity)" I think maybe Joss was making a comment on the fan's love of the series.

THESOMNAMBULIST

Thursday, October 4, 2007 6:04 PM

Originally posted by GrayFury:

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Dont get me wrong...But I think your all being thin skinned.

Yes that's true... I am. Your point?

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Maxim is aimed at the 18-35 Alpha caucasian male.

Jeez they count that far? Who'd a guessed...

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And as much as I love FF. Its not for everybody, it never will be.
Ahh this be a logical argument. I can't argue against logic!

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Maxim has the right to review anything in anystyle they see fit. "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend, to the death, your right to say it!"

Yes and us thin skinned folk have the right to be narked at pages of said rag.

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We can disagree, but the main jist of their article is that the TITLE is misleading. I agree that it is... (To someone whos never heard os Firefly.) Serenity is a state of Sereneness ...would any of you say this was a Serene movie?

Well no, but neither was Firefly the tv series about little bugs that light up in the dark. Jaws was not about the villain from James Bond flicks. Imagine my disappointment! I dare say the Breakfast Club isn't about everybodies most important meal of the day...

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Now if Martha Stewart said in her magazine that Nascar is just a bunch of cars going left really fast...she will expect backlash...but its her right to say so.

HA!

What does Nascar mean anyway...?

BTW loving your sig. That cat has had me in gigles while I wrote this. Also please note my tongue is firmly in my cheek, you make good points. Annoyingly good points!

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JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, October 4, 2007 6:04 PM

If Joss had called the show " Whores In Space " it would now be in its 5th season with episode # 112. Would have been enormously popular, and probably sucked as a result of that popularity. We'd be getting ready for the X-Mas release of "Space Brothel III"......

Don't get me wrong.... I love the names Serenity & Firefly, and I had NO problem becoming a Browncoat even with never having seen Firefly. I just thought the name Serenity was cool & I had heard it was about space, so I watched.
Other catchy names Joss probably passed on for the series :
Bullets Over Betelgeuse
Heavenly Highwaymen
Once Upon A Time In Outer Space
New Earth : 2600 AD
etc etc ...I don't question Joss however.

REGINAROADIE

Thursday, October 4, 2007 6:17 PM

I'm not sure about ENTERPRISE, but I do remember in ST: FIRST CONTACT that Zephram Cochrane used the phrase "star trek". And STAR TREK does aptly describe what's at the heart of the franchise. Joe Blow hears the title and think "Ok, it's about a group of people travelling across the stars.", pretty basic. But when same Joe Blow hears FIREFLY, he thinks "A show about bugs? Shouldn't this be on the Discovery Channel?" Like I said, the title itself is pretty vague. At least with Star Trek, you know exactly what's happening.

Not to hijack the thread, what are some other movies that have titles that have nothing to do with the movie? Two that really stick out are NAKED LUNCH and FARGO. With the latter, only the opening scene takes place in Fargo, North Dakota. The rest of the film is in Minnesota in either Brainerd or the twin cities. And the former is apparently an existentialist term that has to do with the meat on your fork. Still doesn't help explain the movie, which THE SIMPSONS made fun of perfectly. That movie should have been renamed to "Fucked Up Shit". Because every single thing about that movie is fucked up beyond all recognition.

BRAZIL could be considered one, but on the poster, the tagline is "It's not a place. It's a state of mind.' And the whole movie is what takes place in Sam Lowry's mind, so it is a perfect title.

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SHINY

Thursday, October 4, 2007 6:57 PM

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LOL... I guess I never thought about it before, but the name Serenity is very Joss, isn't it? Like a vampire slayer named Buffy. A ship - a beatup workhorse of a ship - with a crew that, while not exactly "space pirates," certainly lives a life that is serene in no sense of the word. It's wishful thinking. It's a beautiful word, serenity, and it has a beautiful meaning, but for most people, it is an unattainable state, and therefore an excellent name for a ship of dreams.

It's also very apropos for the whole Miranda/Pax version of "serenity"...on the other hand, I kind of agree it wasn't the best title to lure newbies into the 'verse (I mean, the movie didn't exactly have an easy to explain premise/plot, so the least you could do is have a catchy/evocative title, right?)

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