Book's line in Objects in Space?
POSTED BY: Geiiga
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I think Sheppard Book was one of the folks that was Security head for the Miranda Project. After that plan failed in total disaster, he retired or took a leave of absence from the alliance. That's why he got immediate medical attention in 'Safe" and also knew an aweful lot about the weapons the assassins used along with the shuttle type used when Mal and Wash were kidnapped by Niska's men.
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interesting theory -
there's a couple on the board right now again re. Book - http://fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=30774
for example.
are you related to Domsdafirda?
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Me? Nope not that I know of. But as to my theory I cannot for the life of me come up with a better scenario. I also believe that was one reason that Book did not go with Mal and the rest to Miranda because he did not want to face what he had been part of.
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Book as an Operative is good EXCEPT when he shows an ID Card to get treatment when he knew he was dying and desperate. Alliance naval officers would never know his identity and it's unlikely a covert and highly secretive organization would give out an ID card saying he was part of it.
Now an Alliance hero, yes that makes sense in every way except him knowing of Niska. The Niska connection and Book's knowledge if weapons tends to lead to Intelligence or high command position. Special forces entirely likely here also. With either, knowing sniper rifles is consistent, one is their use, the other in seeing their effects on his troops or in directing them against opposition troops.
If high command is true it could lead to him being responsible for the Alliance victory at Serenity Valley, though that one is pretty thin. Treat Mal well to make up for Mal's trauma at his hands? I can see it but thin ice.
So, Joss left clues but far too few and with too much to be read into any of them. Since he has killed Book and, as sad as it is to think about, there is litlle likelihood of seeing Serenity 2 or anything similar in the near future, I would love it if Joss would give us a few more clues that would lead to the truth.
Then again, it sure is a lot of fun trying to go on inadequate information to come to a logical conclusion. A definitive conclusion is clearly impoossible right now.
"I don't give half a hump if you're innocent or not. So where does that leave you?"
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i agree - joss left clues to ponder before revealing whatever he really had up his sleeve -
i'm not sure we know much about Shepherds (the abbey etc) let alone Book - or Operatives.
Had Joss even thought up the Operative when he created Book... doubtful -
however, I LIKE the idea of Book as Operative
and i could swallow the notion of a fake ID to show alliance people.
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I noticed it was mentioned in this thread that Book couldnt be an operative because he didnt know about Miranda.
Lets say Book is in his early 40's.. The events at Miranda happened 10 years previous. I believe that he would have left the Government by then after some of the attrocities that he was involved in during the war.
As far as a few other things go... I'm still not convinced that we was an operative (or atleast the same kind of operative we had seen in Serenity)
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Book can't be an alliance operative, acting or retired.
If he had been then the Alliance Ship would NOT have operated on his wound in Safe. Think about that for a moment.
If he's an operative, than the Alliance could not risk giving him any special treatment specifically BECAUSE it would prove he was an operative. Book's not always the bravest, but he's far from a coward, and he wouldn't have revealed the ID Badge if that were the case. As in Mission Impossible, the Alliance "would disavow any involvement" in his actions and that means treating him like a regular joe when he's been shot.
I agree, an operative would not be permitted to just go his own way, as evidenced by Chiwetel Ejiofor's parting line in the BDM. Yet, this circumstance makes Book all that more intriguing, as he knows exactly what kind of trouble an operative can be, "trouble you've not known." My guess is not too many people wander around with that kind of knowledge.
Um, actually, I disagree.
See, people, get old. They get slow. This counts for operatives, too. So, you're thinking that the Alliance would get rid of them. Kill them. The problem with that, though, is that operatives would probably have some way of communicating news. At least to the point that they would notice old operatives disappearing. Then no one would volunteer to be an operative cause they don't wanna get killed, and I don't think you could force people to become operatives.
The Alliance, or at least people inside the Alliance, are too smart for that. So, once their operatives get old, they'd let them retire peacefully. It's safe enough- I recall someone above saying it wasn't the Alliance Book hated- it was his own past. And Book was in a monestary. He isn't going to spill the beans.
And that explains how Book got that instant medical service. They don't want to have other operatives to see that they treat retired operatives like crap. Basic economics. Besides, Book probably did a lot of good for the Alliance, so there might be a collective feeling of gratitude.
That's just my theory about Book. As for Inara dying, that's iffy, but not downright impossible. I don't belive it personally myself, but I won't argue with you, as there is almost evidence to support either of our theorys.
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See, people, get old. They get slow. This counts for operatives, too. So, you're thinking that the Alliance would get rid of them. Kill them. The problem with that, though, is that operatives would probably have some way of communicating news. At least to the point that they would notice old operatives disappearing.
that would make a great fic!!
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Then no one would volunteer to be an operative cause they don't wanna get killed, and I don't think you could force people to become operatives.
oh they could probably find ways and means...
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And that explains how Book got that instant medical service. They don't want to have other operatives to see that they treat retired operatives like crap. Basic economics.
i can see your point!
personally - i still think that if Book was 'deep' cover or had been as an operative, then he would have a number of ready IDs available. (Like Bourne, Bond et al)
after all - the BDM Operative says "I don't exist". So his health cover is probably false - don't want a pesky case of apendicitus taking out our strong right hand now do we??
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Personally, I think Book is a contrite man, having either killed too many people himself, or having caused their death indirectly (through indifference). The "I don't give half a hump if you're innocent or not. So where does that put you?" flashback, in that regard, speaks volumes. I don't think it was a literal flashback, but more like Book seeing River, and caring for her, and thinking back to what kind of man he used to be.
At any rate, Book has resolved never to kill any more (or allow to be killed, through his indifference). I believe he has a particular hang-up about allowing harm to come to the innocent -- which is, again, what the 'flashback' with River is all about: he sees innocence before him, and is actually reminded of his own vows never to see the innocent get hurt while he's around. The real strong opposition to killing folks only kicks in when it looks like he's gonna be personally responsible for their deaths.
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