Heroes 2.0 [SPOILERS]
POSTED BY: deepgirl187
UPDATED: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:38
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
You just gave me an idea. If peter’s ability comes from some form of empathy ability, and he learns how to mimic the powers of other heroes, then shouldn’t it be possible that the Haitian can, by wiping his memory, destroy his ability to use a certain powers?
I would say, to call them at will, yes. But completely remove them? I don't think so. But if they could, what about Sylar? Could the Haitian remove Sylar's memory of the powers he's collected? They still haven't exactly established how he "absorbs" the powers. Not on the show, and not in the comics. Great point though!
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Just wanted to bump this tread. Liked the premiere, LOVED the second episode even more. I loved that Claire has finally gotten past the whole "I'm a freak" thing and has not only embraced her healing abilities, but wants to know more and expand her powers.
And I also loved Hiro standing in for Kensei and trying to fix the past. "Why does he keep calling himself that?" and "Go and write this down in your history books. Call it the Battle of the Twelve Swords!"
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Oh, poopy. Why do they have to go and kill off Noah? 
Cool episode tonight. Who was that couple kissing in the background, I wonder? I'm thinking maybe Nikki, as it was a blond, and the corporation did ask her to take care of something.
And it looks like one of my predictions came true, and that Peter is going to develop Nikki's power. Which sucks beyond belief. God knows what he'll do...
This is just a theory, but is it possible that Claire is descended from Takezo Kensei (think that's how you spell it)? They do have identical powers after all.
More questions, less answers. Looks to be a good season. 
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Thought I'd start us a new thread for this eppy:
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Originally posted by deepgirl187:
Oh, poopy. Why do they have to go and kill off Noah?
Don't write Noah off yet. We have seen that not all of Isaac's paintings come true. It could be that Noah knowing about the painting he will be able to avoid the events that lead up to his death.
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Cool episode tonight. Who was that couple kissing in the background, I wonder? I'm thinking maybe Nikki, as it was a blond, and the corporation did ask her to take care of something.
Wish I could have seen the pic better. It could have been Nikki, but it might have been Claire too. Were they kissing or was the shadowy male figure trying to keep the blonde from seeing Noah dead? Hard to tell from the pic. Your theory that it is Nikki fulfilling a task for the Company as payment for her being "cured" of her powers is a likely one.
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And it looks like one of my predictions came true, and that Peter is going to develop Nikki's power. Which sucks beyond belief. God knows what he'll do...
Still not convinced that Peter is going to develop a dual personality like Nikki. It is my firm belief that the Nikki/Jessica condition was caused by childhood trauma and not as some sort of side effect of Nikki's power. There is no indication that Peter will develop some split identity. The impression I got was that Peter was getting a rush off of the use of his power and that he liked the feeling of being in control. You know the old saying about power corrupting, it could be that is the dark road the writers are going to explore with Peter.
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This is just a theory, but is it possible that Claire is descended from Takezo Kensei (think that's how you spell it)? They do have identical powers after all.
You know, that was the first thing I thought of last week when we see Hiro pull the first arrow out of Kensei and he heals before our eyes. I wondered if there is some sort of link between Kensei and Claire. I haven't completely dismissed the possibility yet, but I don't think it very likely. Claire's new boyfriend can fly just like Nathan Petrelli, but does that mean they are related? I would find that far too hard to believe since Claire is Nathan's daughter. What are the odds Nathan has another child out there with powers and that his two illegitimate children would bump into each other.
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Still not convinced that Peter is going to develop a dual personality like Nikki. It is my firm belief that the Nikki/Jessica condition was caused by childhood trauma and not as some sort of side effect of Nikki's power. There is no indication that Peter will develop some split identity.
I see your point here. But if you noticed, Peter developed the same type of tattoo that Nikki/Jessica has. His power might not take the form of DID, but it is possible that he will develop a darker (and possibly violent) side to his personality as a direct result of his ability. On the other hand, seeing Peter with a darker edge (but not insane; too many of those in the show already) would add an interesting dimension to his character.
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What are the odds Nathan has another child out there with powers and that his two illegitimate children would bump into each other.
Plus, eww (if they are indeed related).
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Considering that Claire's boyfriend had those marks on his neck and he remembers his attacker as someone who sports horned rim glasses he could be the one to kill Noah. It stands to reason that either he wants revenge or is another "hero" who has fallen under the influence of The Company. I thought from the first that he seemed a little shady, it is entirely possible that he is some kind of plant looking for people with abilities.
It sucks that DL had to go. He was my favorite character out of that family. Funny how Micah is now under the care of another ex-Trekker.
I've got the feeling that Sylar is still under the influence of an illusion and that he did not actually kill Candace. She kept making references to the people she worked for being interested in him. If anyone were really interested in keeping him alive why would he be moved to a shack in the middle of nowhere? It is more likely that he would be taken to one of their state of the art facilities. Perhaps somewhere in the building Mohinder is now working...wouldn't that be appropriate? I also have a hard time believing her explanation as to how she dragged him away from Kirby plaza. After all Nikki had knocked her out just before Sylar was stabbed.
I keep getting the feeling that Kensai is the man going after the older heroes. Hiro's father made mention of them paying for something they did in the past. At some point they must have royally screwed him over, pushing him down a darker path. I also think whoever this guy turns out to be he isn't the same as Molly's Nightmare Man.
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Peter is certainly moving towards a darker side. I think this is an attempt to curtail his powers. As long as he is using them to jack armored trucks then he can’t use them to take over the world or thwart the efforts of real villains. Whether he has developed a psychological Nikkiness – I don’t know. I actually think that if he goes bad it will be more of a Sylar-Power-corrupts factor then a Nikki-I’m-Nuts factor. Although I have to admit that having Peter absorb Nikki’s psychosis along with her power would not only be more interesting but would add dimension to the whole absorbing powers stuff. However, I think that if that were the case, then we would have seen evidence of it so far. A tattoo of the Godsend character doesn’t do much for me, because that character shows on everything for no particular reason other than to be there.
Maya took her first real step towards the inevitable. She used her powers for evil. Sure, she probably expected that her brother would fix the problem, but when her brother isn’t around, then what? Maya is completely emotionally dependent on her brother. Without him she is a VX canister waiting to go off.
Is Claire related to Kensai? It’s entirely possible that many heroes are related to one another. Except for a few who have the ability to manifest powers, most people gain them the old-fashioned way by having parents with them. This sort of suggests that, except for a Mule here and there, there are one or more lineages of heroes. In fact, this is has sort of been an underlying theme.
Also, powers are not distributed infinitely (everyone has different powers), but certain types of powers seem to be more common.
Concerning the issue of geek casting, there is really only Keonig left from the original series, unless anyone thinks they will get Shatner or Nimoy on the show, but I doubt it. Or maybe they will – I don’t know. This show could be a lot bigger then I think it is. I don’t get out much.
I have to admit that I’m happy DL bit it. They really should have killed off Parkman and probably one other. There are just too many characters. And what power does Uhura have? The ability to communicate across sub-space channels?
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One thing I always wanted them to explore was the consequences of Peter absorbing powers. I seem to remember early in Season One where Mohinder mentioned that Peter's ability worked like a sponge; if he absorbed too many abilities, he could become unstable. Is that still the case? It would be interesting to see what kind of form that instability took.
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Looks like you guys hit the heavy topics.
I am in the following camps:
-Kensei prolly is related to the Claire being that most of the story seems to fate based.
-Sylar is still under an illusion being that he didn’t absorb any powers. But, they totally flip the script on ya all the time. So………
-On the fence about whether “high school flying boy” is part of the Co. or running from it. I did see a TV guide interview with Noah where he says he would be flying in a future ep. But not under his own power. So, I’m guessing it's this guy.
-No clue on whether Peter absorbed Nikki’s psychosis, but it would make for interesting story. ..and possibly make some regret letting Peter live (i.e..Nathan) at the end of last season.
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
They really should have killed off Parkman and probably one other. There are just too many characters.
Nah, Parkman (whatever his real name is) is too good of an actor. Hopefully his role will become more crucial as time goes on.
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And what power does Uhura have? The ability to communicate across sub-space channels?
I'm thinkin' we'll see a voodoo doll or communication with the dead. …which would be perfect for Micah to talk to his dad.
If this was covered in an earlier post, I’m sorry… But, Do you think Nathan and his Mom think Peter is dead or are they doing a good job of covering it up for his own safety?
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