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Quote:So, will either Finn or Fletch explain the statement about acting on rhetoric?
Fletch2- I'm not misquoting, I really don't understand what Finn meant. That's why I asked. But if you know what Finn meant please enlighten me.
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Originally posted by Righteous9:
so the difference is, you're here to present your case and defend yourself, and to attack back if you feel it's appropriate?
On the other hand you expect your comments to go unmolested, more general hatred seeping into common everyday conversation as if its the norm, because you're attacking groups after all, not individuals?
What the hell makes that better?
My comments never go unmolested, as you say. It's only rarely will I respond back. I write what I write and that is all I'm willing to say. Truth is, if Yahoo hadn't taken away their message boards that's where I'd be writing my pearls of wisdom.
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And my questions never get answered.
Sigh.
Story of my life.
I was hoping Finn would illuminate his comment because it puzzles me greatly, but if anyone else wants to take a crack at it, feel free.
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Sign me Clueless.
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Sigy, bubala, ... ask me a question. I'll answer.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
And my questions never get answered.
Sigh.
Story of my life.
I was hoping Finn would illuminate his comment because it puzzles me greatly, but if anyone else wants to take a crack at it, feel free.
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Sign me Clueless.
All you had to do was look up three posts. Apparently you are blind as well as stupid.
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Quote:I think Afghanistan was on the radar because 9/ll really shocked a lot of people, but still if I remember correctly, the French were trying to avoid of Afghanistan even then. And I don’t know how much Iran is on the radar. As long as no credible threat of force is levied against Iran I don’t think Europeans will have much of a problem imposing sanctions. I think you’re right that Europeans are not likely to support wars that they don’t perceive as being in their interests. And that’s always been the case, it was just easier in the past to make a convincing argument, then it is today, particularly since in most of history people weren’t really given a choice in the matter. I don’t think Americans are any different in that regard. But Europeans seem more willing to support supranational agencies like the United Nations and World Court. Even the European Union is supranational. None of these agencies have any real means of enforcing the policies they are design to implement. It’s just all on paper. There seems to be a philosophy among many Europeans to unit under purely bureaucratic means. One British author referred to this as “Olympianism.” Maybe I am misinterpreting. I don’t completely understand European politics at that level, but if anything I think I may be oversimplifying more than misinterpreting.
Originally posted by Fletch2:
Finn: I think you mis-interpret the current Eurpoean position. Europe has been at war on and off for close to 2000 years. The last 100 of which were especially bloody. I think Europe has finally started to do the math, work out the costs and benefits of conflicts according to a fairly complex formula. That is why Iraq was not on the European radar but Iran is, that's why there are European troops in Afghanistan. I don't know that the average modern European is less inclined to go to war, I just think you have to make a better case that it's in his best interest.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:Nah, you just get tasered for asking questions and arrested for peacefully protesting. It's only freedom of speech that's eroded Rap. But I'm sure you won't miss it.
First of all, none of our personal rights or freedoms have been eroded
And wow- the right wing is suddenly worried about the rights of gays. What a fucking joke.
No, you get arrested for not following instructions to leave. Taser boy could have carried a sign outside and yelled all he wanted, but there's no RIGHT for him to disrupt an organized meeting, even if it is featuring John F-ing Kerry.
And wow, this goes well beyond bickering over what "rights" homosexuals have. Conservatives don't deny homosexuals have the right to live. That's no joking matter.
right back at ya.People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:Where? I looked up three posts from Finn's post and from THIS post and I don't see anything that applies. So, I'm blind. Give me a key word to "edit- find on this page".
All you had to do was look up three posts. Apparently you are blind as well as stupid
BTW- I REALLY don't think I deserve your snark. I asked a question, I can't find the answer. What's your problem?
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Oh, okay I see it. But Fletch2, have you ever considered anger management classes?
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Let me repost Fletch2's statement that basically describes what I meant:
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Finn's contention is that Europe favours action via multinational entities such as the UN as an excuse for inaction. Ie, they can CLAIM to be against something, do all the posturing and sabre rattling they need to do to look tough, safe in the knowledge that bodies like the UN will never agree to authorise anything.
The crucial thing is to look at the complete sentence, it is not "Acting in favor of rhetoric." It is the failier to act, and instead to favour rhetoric.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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