The Return of Jubal Early
POSTED BY: ecgordon
UPDATED: Saturday, April 10, 2004 04:47
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"Actually, the schism was between her and Kaylee"
Yes, initially this is true.. however, at the beginning of the episode there is a build up of the idea that the schism is quickly spreading to the whole of the crew at least in River's mind. She feels alone like she doesn't belong, and thinks she's a detriment to the well being of everyone on board, even Simon. She comes to grips with her misfitness (is that a word? :)) and realizes that the crew actually want and need her.
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Is misfitness WASN'T a word, it should be... and hereby IS a word from here on.
Do we know that everyone wants and needs her? Jayne certainly showed no signs of that. But I see your point.
Speaking of...
... who else would've LOVED to see Early and Jayne square off? I think that would have been a Clash of the Titans moment--big strong Early with his bizzarre-yet-wise statements, versus big strong Jayne with his bizzarre-yet-idiotic comebacks...
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"I like smackin 'em"--Jayne
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"Jayne certainly showed no signs of that. But I see your point."
You know that's an interesting point.. Jayne was asleep through most of this episode and she didn't try to talk to him either.
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Originally posted by Veteran:
If you watch closely at the end of OiS you can see the reflection of a ship approaching in Early's visor.
excellent observation!!
i agree, he'll be back. he was too good to not have an escape plan. i like the idea of river saving him, she really didn't want anyone to get hurt, but i think it's much more likely that he saved himself somehow.
"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."
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Originally posted by BadgersHat:
... who else would've LOVED to see Early and Jayne square off?
yes, jayne never saw early on serenity. maybe they even know each from the past. could be wacky fun.
"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."
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If Jubal has a remote control for the ship and is so worried about what River might touch in his ship, why doesn't he get it out or even glance at it?
Jubal was cool, no debate, but unlike Boba Fett he needs to stay in the Sarlacc.
Personally, I think Joss might have even been saying that. We know the character was inspired by Boba Fett. So we don't actually see him killed, realisticly, he will die in space at the corner of No and Where.
The only plausible option for his survival (that we've seen from the episode) is that River set his ship to return to him. But I think River takes things literally; she says no touching guns because she was told no touching guns. Plus she knows how good Early is; pulling a gun on him has a good chance of getting a member of the crew killed. Pushing him off the ship, not so much. I don't think she'd have any problem letting Early die if for no other reason than she knows what he did to Kaylee.
It's kind of like what Dobson did to Book; it was the "he's okay to kill" moment.
You know, whether he was to come back or not was probably decided long ago. We can just hope that it's something we get to see one way or another.
"Wacky fun..."
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Originally posted by karenkay99:Quote:
Originally posted by BadgersHat:
... who else would've LOVED to see Early and Jayne square off?
yes, jayne never saw early on serenity. maybe they even know each from the past. could be wacky fun.
"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."
WHOA! I never thought of that. Maybe one day when Serenity is on a planet, Jayne wonders off, and DUN DUN DUNNNN, he see's Early. But he never knows what he looks like,or Book either. Hey I got an idea! It would be awesome if Book and Early had a wacky past too! That's why Early knows him. They could have a fight or even..THEY COULD BE BROTHERS!! whoa. I am just spewing theorys today.
Yes, they could be cousins, or relatives. Or war buddies of some type. But when the war was over, Early wanted to get the gang started again,like Mal. But Book wanted to take it easy for the rest of his life. That's why Early hates and knows him. It could be possible that Book didn't want his friend/brother/cousin to die, so he flagged the alliance or someone to pick him up. Then the blue hands would try to kill him once they knew he found them, but Early would of course get out. Now HE'S a fugitve as well...HAHA!
Just a theory...or two...
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"I don't think she'd have any problem letting Early die if for no other reason than she knows what he did to Kaylee."
You mean what he threatened to do. In actuality he tied her up and told her she'd be safe if she kept quite. Now River was in a unique position to understand that he was serious about his threats and that he seriously would enjoy hurting Kaylee. But many people on Firefly have tried to kill or hurt them and even shot Kayle once; River hasn't killed all of them.
I guess what I'm cautioning here is that there is a difference between threat and action; elevating the threat to a worse status than the act is silly. I'm not saying River should not or would not deal with a pending threat. But I'm not convinced she was ready to kill Jubal especially in light of the odd kinship relationship she seemed to infer.
Now if Jubal showed up again in the future I suspect she would have no qualms in taking him out.
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Thanks 99, but I can't take credit for that, I think Maniacnumberone pointed it out in a similar thread a couple months ago.
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I looked at the reflection in the visor in OIS. To me it looks like a person upside down in perspective to Early's position at that time and it appears the person is holding something (a gun) in their right hand.
I'm thinking Early would fit right in with Reavers and that could lead to all sorts of unpleasantness.
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