Is anybody else getting nervous?????

POSTED BY: Smaug
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SMAUG

Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:27 PM

I'm suprised at the seeming lack of discussion about this.

From all sources that I have ever read (and which has never been disputed) is that the contract for all the actors to make a sequel runs out at the end of this month. That's only 11 DAYS AWAY!!!

Joss has stated last month, in so many words, that Universal told him that Serenity is in the black.. and that the hopes for a sequel probably rests with this DVD (the Collector's Edition).

It all seems to make sence... if Universal is on the fence about weither or not to greenlight a sequel that they would release this collector's edition prior to the final deadline and use that as a last minute guage as to weither or not to greenlight the sequel.

Ok.. all that being said.. it's only 11 days away!!! Isn't anyone else getting nervous???

I won't ever give up hope that we won't see new content about the Firefly verse. I will take any book, or comic book, or even a spin off tv show that would ever come our way... BUT.. if we ever want to see these actors to play these roles again in this universe we love so much... THIS IS IT!!! I would believe that after September 30th.. even though we have done the impossible.. and lighting could strike twice.. I would have to face reality and belive that the hopes of ever seeing a sequel would suddenly approach zero. Not impossible.. but getting all nine (or seven ) actors back together would probably be a sceduling nightmare (they need to make a living.. they can't hold out for this forever).. not to mention they probably would be more expensive. And I am guessing that any sequel we get will probably have even a smaller budget than the first movie.. so more expensive actors.. surely wouldn't help.

So after September 30th... I belive we will get more Firefly.. in one form or another.. but I wouldn't bet that it would be with these characters being played by these actors that we love so much..

Anyway... .. I guess I will just hold the line.. and my breath.. for the next 11 days!!!

Smaug..

FOLLOWMAL

Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:48 PM

Smaug,

I don't disagree with you on any particular point.

We don't know for sure that the actor's contracts expire, that's just what we all think from something Sean Maher said in an interview. I suspect it's true. But it's possible their contracts could be extended.

Sales of the CE do figure in a sequel happening, this came directly from Joss' mouth. I think the sales have been pretty good ( when available! ) for a Collector's Edition basically designed to double dip into the fandom's pockets.

I'm not sure Uni is using sales of it as a gauge for a sequel within a close time frame. TheOneTrueBix ( who is a bastion of accuracy ) pointed out that truly it isn't enough time to gauge sales if they're doing it to beat the deadline on actor's contracts.

I'm afraid the way it is, is the way it is.

We will all just have to wait and see if Uni approaches Joss and the actor's to do more in some form. Our chances have been slim to none for quite some time. There are folks all over the 'Verse who say it's unreasonable to expect anything more.
I'm sort of unreasonably cheerful like that, so I'll just stay here and hold the line and see what happens.

( Oh, and I'll be spreading the word like always, representing my fandom with pride and buying the CE, cuz it's something I CAN do! )

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MSG

Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:51 PM

Fingers crossed...

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FOLLOWMAL

Wednesday, September 19, 2007 5:03 PM

Coming back to add that there is an almost identical discussion occurring over at the OB (Original Board) where some of the original Browncoats you've seen in DTI post daily and one of the members who is a numbers cruncher and an admittedly "cynical and pessimistic" person says that the contract ran out long ago on the actors, that the September date is a "myth".

So worrying about the contract expiration is moot if she's right.

We will just have to spread the joy that is Firefly to new folks and hope, as we always have.

Anyone else have any information about this?
Bix?

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DAVESHAYNE

Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:09 PM

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Originally posted by Smaug:
Isn't anyone else getting nervous???

Nope. Contracts expiring just means that when the sequel does get made there will need to be new contracts. That's maybe a few hours time on behalf of legal and some phone calls to agents sprinkled with insincere expressions of affection. No worries.

David

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DARKFLY

Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:11 PM

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Originally posted by Smaug:
Isn't anyone else getting nervous???

Nope. Contracts expiring just means that when the sequel does get made there will need to be new contracts. That's maybe a few hours time on behalf of legal and some phone calls to agents sprinkled with insincere expressions of affection. No worries.

I completely agree, contracts are there really to make sure the actor's have to come back for the sequel but unlike other actors our Big Damn Heroes would do a sequel willingly probably even for free.

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SMAUG

Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:49 PM

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Nope. Contracts expiring just means that when the sequel does get made there will need to be new contracts. That's maybe a few hours time on behalf of legal and some phone calls to agents sprinkled with insincere expressions of affection. No worries.

Well.. I would like to believe that it was that simple.. but if it was.. why would there ever be contracts like this in the first place?

I'm not saying you couldn't make new contracts.. but then it's up to each actor's willingness and ability to agree to it. I have to believe that they all would be willing.. but that doesn't mean they would have the ability to. And how hard is Universal willing to try, at that point, on a movie that is already shown that it won't be a blockbuster? No matter how incredible it would be. Sure.. we all know it will make them a small fortune in the long run.. but studios don't seem to care about that.

Smaug.. still nervous..

DAVESHAYNE

Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:29 PM

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Originally posted by Smaug:
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Nope. Contracts expiring just means that when the sequel does get made there will need to be new contracts. That's maybe a few hours time on behalf of legal and some phone calls to agents sprinkled with insincere expressions of affection. No worries.

Well.. I would like to believe that it was that simple.. but if it was.. why would there ever be contracts like this in the first place?

Why are there ever contracts? To provide a written record of responsibilities between people engaging in a financial relationship.

David

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RAHLMACLAREN

Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:42 PM

I'm always nervous when it comes to Firefly. Never know if there's going to be good news or bad news. Seems the last good news we had was the release of the CE. I don't think we like being in the dark too long.

Maybe it's 'cause Joss is busy with Goners, which is a good thing. I don't even know what it's about, but I want to see it.

BTW, Drive eps are still downloadable, right?

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RAYCHEETAH

Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:58 PM

I dunno 'bout Universal's /option/ for two more BDMs bein' a myth...

That said, I don't think Joss is gonna say anything until Universal tells him he can.

The fact that Joss hasn't said much about the sales figures at all, could be interpreted as a good sign; if it was just business as usual, he'd be out there, thankin' us Browncoats for snappin' 'em up like umbrellas in a thunderstorm. Instead, Joss is keeping real quiet...

Then, there is the sudden and, to my way of thinkin,' atypical price rise and/or lack of easy availability on Firefly and Serenity DVDs. You don't raise the price on something that's headed toward the dumpster, flans. It seems that those who produce the DVDs have re-revaluated their market value. As for availability, especially of the BDCE, well, it seems we have exceeded supply with our demand. Yeah, I know sales figures are not so hot; however, you can't sell what you don't have in stock. Also a good sign.

So, always the eternal optimist, I am increasingly hopeful about Universal's option on another BDM. And, if Universal, for some reason, decides not to opt another movie, another studio might very well be interested in those rights, say, Warner, which, apparently, is wildly happy with the (relatively modest) sales of Babylon 5: The Lost Tales, JM Straczynski's (admittedly modest) initial direct-to-video opus for that franchise (also scrood by F*X, also VERY GOOD sci-fi television).

So, we're gonna HOLD! Don't lay down arms, not even if Universal decides it's gettin' too hot for air support! We can win this war, get our independence (and, our BDM), and, all go home and eat fresh bao outta purplebelly helmets...

Ermm... I mean, yeah, let's see what happens.

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