Doctor Who, Part Two
POSTED BY: deepgirl187
UPDATED: Saturday, October 6, 2007 02:29
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Originally posted by deepgirl187:
You know, I never thought I'd say this, but The Doctor is a right bastard.
Yep, he sure is.
He is a genius (as he likes to tell us) and therefore would be thinking and operating on a level well above most people or beings. He doesn't always think about what they may be going through.
The earlier Doctor's had similar issues as well. The 4th Doctor left Mary Jane (as pointed out in the new series). The Fifth Doctor rarely gave Adric his due (although Adric did whinge a lot). The First Doctor wasn't always kind to those around him.
They all got annoyed with the stupid things that their companions would do, as it usually got them into danger.
Not making excuses for him.
Also I don't think he picked the time period, I thought he stated that the TARDIS did that, along with their cover stories? May be wrong tho'.
"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."
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Originally posted by deepgirl187:
Let me explain. I just watched Human Nature. And yes, I know he's had his memory wiped. But to put Martha in that position (and in a time period very unfriendly to blacks) is not only unfair, it's almost callous.
The "emergency" procedure he's using is clearly semi-automatic and only designed for one. If you re-watch the episode you'll see where he explains to her that the TARDIS will spin him a cover story but she'll have to improvise.
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But then again, The Doctor has never been very accommodating to Martha, right from the very beginning. She deserves so much better, and even she can't see it.
Hmm. Watch on... he's really going to make your blood boil in part 2 :-)
I think that's been quite a deliberate plot-line in the new series (one that was just starting to arise in the old series when it was axed). The Doctor has a strong set of personal principles, which are almost - but not quite - aligned with human morality. He's certainly useless at the less grandiose end of human emotions and relationships. Although he likes and respects humans his instincts will always be telling him that they are puny, short-lived, inferior creatures. Certainly the idea of someone who is 880 years his junior and a different species as a - well, lets say "life partner" - is so far from his mind that it doesn't occur to him that - from their POV - he's eligible and (to their senses) Human and that they might expect some sort of exclusive relationship. (I mean, he tried to pick up Mme Pompadour under Rose's nose in series 2).
Note that things only got really serious with Rose after they briefly meet as "equals" in "Parting of the Ways".
Oh, and I think it was established in the old series that the rest of Time Lords were not necessarily all particularly nice people.
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From classic Doctor Who it would be Leela, Nyssa, Susan, K-9 and Tegan. I haven't seen much of the new series of Doctor Who, but so far I would say Captain Jack and Rose.
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old who: Sarah Jane. Romana II
new who: captain jack, sarah jane, SALLY SPARROW
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Just watched The Runaway Bride, finally. Since BBC and Sci-Fi aren't kind enough to air it again, I resorted to other methods. Not bad, but I liked The Christmas Invasion better.
You know, I can stand Catherine Tate for an episode, but the entire next series? Why, oh why could they have not found someone else? My God, that woman is annoying. At least Freema Agyeman will be on part of the time.
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Hmm. Watch on... he's really going to make your blood boil in part 2 :-)
That evil, rotten bastard. Yeah, so you were right.
I swear, it's like Martha doesn't even exist. Would someone, anyone, get a freakin' clue? Not only does Martha how horrible he's being, I'm not sure he recognizes it (or he doesn't care, which is even more of a possibility).
You know, this reminds me of Buffy. Towards the end, I pretty much despised her character, and right now, it's the same with The Doctor. Thank God Jack will be here in a few episodes, or else I'd have trouble finishing the season.
Moving away from the rantyness, Torchwood starts tomorrow. Yay!!!
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Originally posted by deepgirl187:
You know, this reminds me of Buffy. Towards the end, I pretty much despised her character, and right now, it's the same with The Doctor. Thank God Jack will be here in a few episodes, or else I'd have trouble finishing the season.
Hay, a thread on the board of my favorite show of all time, talking about my second favorite! How come I've not posted more?!
I know where you're coming from with your rant here but the thing is I recognise all of these faults in the character and absolutely adore him anyway (I'm smitten worse than Martha!) I loved Imnohere's summary. It's true he does think he's better than eveyone else, because, tlet's face it, he is! In any other character that arrogance would be teeth grittingly annoying but sadly I am so far gone that I would be happy to be considered his pet!
I also have a deep crush on House. Maybe this reveals a deep character flaw in myself that I am attracted to super confident, slightly callous genii!
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Forgive the rantyness; I'd just finished "Family Of Blood", and was more than a little heated. It's not that I hate The Doctor, he can just be so infuriating sometimes. Whereas someone like House recognizes he faults (he just doesn't care 
), The Doctor seems to think he can't really be wrong. What he could really use is a reality check. Last of the Time Lords (well, kinda) or no, he still has to live in this universe just like anyone else. And sometimes that means accepting when you're wrong, and learning humility.
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The Doctor seems to think he can't really be wrong. What he could really use is a reality check.
Well, he got well and truly told at the end of "Family of Blood"... and as for Martha, well,
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She might just wake up and smell the coffee...
I think that's the big hope for Catherine Tate - there's a lot of skepticism, but a spell with a companion who doesn't desperately want his babies might do him good (if its well written).
I'm prepared to give her a chance - I'm not a huge fan of her comedy, but she's clearly not a one-trick pony like Peter Kay and other cases of "stuntcasting". The Christmas episode was a bit naff anyway (nothing wrong with a bit of pantomime at xmas). Remember the "oh god its Bonnie Langford all over again" reactions when Billie Piper was announced"...
They still need to bring back Sally Sparrow though!
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Yes, Sally Sparrow was indeed, HOT!
I have managed to intrigue a friend of mine who is not a fan into watching the next Christmas episode with the promise of Kylie Minogue! Can't wait for that one!
Also VERY excited about the gossip I've picked up in the last Who Magazine about season 2 of Torchwood! Brace yourself!
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Guess who's going to be appearing alongside our beloved Captain Jack? James Masters! Our beloved Spike himself, but with brown hair! It's true, two of the sexiest people on the planet on one show. I may explode from the excitement! Don't know if it's a one off or a permanent feature yet. Anyone else heard?
If that is old news to anyone please forgive my excitement but I was thrilled!
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