Iraqi WMD's non-existence still confounding some buggers!
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, September 14, 2007 17:16
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Quote:...and there's no guarantee that the Romulans won't invade us next year...
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
and there’s no guarantee that we still won’t find those WMD’s somewhere.
Quote:Exactly! PRECISELY!!
In 2003, the existence of WMDs in Iraq was conjecture either way – there was really no hard evidence to support either side –
And somehow you are okay with starting a war based on what you want to see in a situation....honestly Finn, a lot of times you have an argument for your perspective that I must respect, but your logic is in question, where WMD's are concerned.
Vulcanisall
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Quote:Hindsight in 2003 ? Try again.
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Hindsight is 20/20?
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So tell me, Finn. How is it that some people knew there were no WMD in Iraq while you continued (and still continue) to believe Bush ?-Rue
You don’t know any more than anyone else. -Finn
Quote:Hey, I knew from the get-go and I posted as such. And I explained WHY I knew: The closer Blix got to declaring Iraq in substantial compliance with UN mandates, the more shrill the Adminstration got. Some of the "evidence" that they put forth was clearly unjustified. (For example, the DOE found those infamous aluminum tubes didn't meet uranium centrifuge specs and were prolly purchased for rocket engines. But one thing Bush does quite well is brush aside "techie" evaulations. It's like physical reality doesn't exist for him.) Furthermore, there is plenty of evidence from past administrations (You can include Lyndon Johnson and Maggie Thatcher along with Ronald Reagan and George HW Bush) that wars are NOT always about defense. Politics requires a BIG dose of skepticism: Nobody is going to tell you outright that they're about the f*ck yu over. BY the time they're thru spinning the story, you'll be so dizzy you'll believe it's all for your own good! Just start out with the idea that most politicians lie most of the time... EVEN ABOUT WAR... and you'll be heading in the right direction
Hindsight is 20/20?-BDN
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Quote:You have the same psi-ability that I possess, clearly.
Originally posted by rue:
I did know there were no WMD and I posted that.
So, how did I and others know while you didn't ?
Gifted Chrisisall
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Originally posted by rue:
I did know there were no WMD and I posted that.
So, how did I and others know while you didn't ?
You were wrong. President Clinton, ALGore and dozens of other high ranking democrats disagreed with you.
Not to mention President Bush, Tony Blair and 95% of the world wide intellegence community.
It was you, Saddam, and a few guys from the UN. Heck, I still don't believe you. Lets face it I could plop a warhead filled with sarin gas and stamped 'Made in Iraq, March 1st 2003' taken live on video by a busload of nuns as it was removed from Saddam's bedroom minutes after he fled the building having completed a live internet sex tape staring him, Paris Hilton, and the warhead and witnessed by every person in the entire world and certified by Jesus Christ himself IN PERSON and you'd still say "but there were no WMDs, Bush lied".
Did they find a WMD program? No. Did they find WMDs and prohibited weapons? Yes, yes they did. Most were manufactured leftovers from the '80s and early '90s and no stockpiles, just some here and some there. Might Saddam have hidden more or moved them to Syria? Maybe. He sent his air force to Iran during the '91 War (except the Migs we found buried in the desert in 1993) , so there's precedent.
Tell you what. Give me ten years head start and I'll hide something in the state of California, if you find it then I'll admit I'm wrong.
H
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Quote:that you might even destroy you country's economy trying to respond.
Originally posted by SignyM:
BY the time they're thru spinning the story, you'll be so dizzy
Saddam was goin' for a Reagan-a-dope Chrisisall
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Quote:The EXACT opposite is true for you, Hero.
Originally posted by Hero:
Lets face it I could plop a warhead filled with sarin gas and stamped 'Made in Iraq, March 1st 2003' taken live on video by a busload of nuns as it was removed from Saddam's bedroom minutes after he fled the building having completed a live internet sex tape staring him, Paris Hilton, and the warhead and witnessed by every person in the entire world and certified by Jesus Christ himself IN PERSON and you'd still say "but there were no WMDs, Bush lied".
And you won't even see it
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Quote:At the time they were in office they did not have the additional information generated by aggressive UNMOVIC inpsections. And it wasn't "the UN" that inpsected Iraq, the inspection team included Scott Ritter AND David Kay. I listened carefully to what they were doing and how they were doing it, and it didn't seem possible that Saddam would be producing WMD in meaningful quantities w/o it being detected. You have to pay attention to information as it comes in, not get stuck in 5-year-old data.
You were wrong. President Clinton, ALGore and dozens of other high ranking democrats disagreed with you.
Quote:Is that the best you can come up with????
Lets face it I could plop a warhead filled with sarin gas and stamped 'Made in Iraq, March 1st 2003' taken live on video by a busload of nuns as it was removed from Saddam's bedroom minutes after he fled the building having completed a live internet sex tape staring him, Paris Hilton, and the warhead and witnessed by every person in the entire world and certified by Jesus Christ himself IN PERSON and you'd still say "but there were no WMDs, Bush lied".
Why did you even post? Quote:Is it bigger than a breadbox? Tell you what- you "hide" a uranium weapons program in California, or the ability to produce 5 tons of Sarin... or the ability to produce 25,000 liters of liquid anthrax and you win.
Tell you what. Give me ten years head start and I'll hide something in the state of California, if you find it then I'll admit I'm wrong.
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"You were wrong. President Clinton, ALGore and dozens of other high ranking democrats disagreed with you."
No, I was right.
Now maybe in your line of work (court clerk) you spend your time thinking about how things could have been construed and how to work with innuendo, but in my line of work (scientist) I deal with data and facts.
So, what did I know that made me right and you wrong ?
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