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Iraqi WMD's non-existence still confounding some buggers!

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, September 14, 2007 17:16
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Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:00 PM

Cue AURaptor:

YES THEY DID! My world crumbles if they didn't.

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Thursday, September 6, 2007 9:05 PM

Cue Hero:

There is no conclusive substancial legal anti-proof that they do indeedy exist. Any drunk driver could tell you that.

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Friday, September 7, 2007 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Cue AURaptor:

YES THEY DID! My world crumbles if they didn't.

Wow! A whole two people told the president that there were no WMD in Iraq! I guess it’s conclusive. How could the president have possibly believed the countless others who said there were WMDs in Iraq, when two people said there weren’t!!!!

I bet I could find two people who say that global warming doesn’t exist – I guess we’re all in agreement then that it doesn’t.

Makes me wonder whose world you’re actually worried about crumbling.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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RUE
Friday, September 7, 2007 1:04 AM

Yup, they ignored this guy "Naji Sabri, Saddam's foreign minister" and went with 'Curveball' instead. Good choice. One I'm sure you find acceptable.

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Friday, September 7, 2007 1:17 AM

Yeah, imagine that - the White House didn’t place a high level of confidence in the foreign minister of Saddam’s Iraq.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

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RUE
Friday, September 7, 2007 1:25 AM

Yeah, imagine that - they believed Curveball.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_(informant)

Curveball's German intelligence handlers saw him as "crazy ... out of control", his friends called him a, "congenital liar" and US officials investigating his claims were surprised that he had a hangover and that he, "might be an alcoholic".

... there were many reports that Curveball was actually a relative of one of Ahmed Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress (INC) top aides.

The Bush administration ignored evidence from the UN weapons inspectors that Curveball's claims where false. Among Curveball's claims was that an Iraqi facility had been redesigned, with a temporary wall, to allow mobile laboratories to slip in and out undetected.

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Friday, September 7, 2007 1:30 AM

Finn, you're a normally intelligent person but you just get all weird on this. There were many other indications that Saddam wasn't producing WMD: the whole "yellowcake" fiasco, the aluminum tube fiasco... The CIA and DIA tagged "Curveball" as unreliable long b4 he ever got Bush's attention. But Curveball's story was what Bush wanted to hear.

Furthermore, Blix had testified b4 the UN that he was within a few months of finding Iraq in substantial compliance with UN mandates. And so you have to wonder... or at least I did... what was the urgent urgency of going into Iraq? Why not just let the UNMOVIC inpsections play out?

And fianlly- where were Saddam's delivery systems? He sure didn't have ICBMs, or even reginally effective rockets. So why did we have to invade this month, this hour, this minute... CAN'T WAIT? It was all just a big show and you should have seen through it.

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RUE
Friday, September 7, 2007 1:37 AM

Finn, Rap and Hero. I can't remember who else.


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Friday, September 7, 2007 1:57 AM

Many detractors want to make this appear as if this whole thing was crystal clear in 2003, but it was not, and it really still is not. The strongest reason that we’ve largely concluded that there were no WMDs at the time of the US/UK invasion is simply because we haven’t found them. Well, there are a lot of things that took a while to find, and there’s no guarantee that we still won’t find those WMD’s somewhere. In 2003, the existence of WMDs in Iraq was conjecture either way – there was really no hard evidence to support either side – so it really comes to who you want to believe. The Foreign Minister of Saddam’s Iraq wasn’t high on my list of reliable sources. And I doubt it was high on anyone’s list, if they were legitimately interested in the question.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

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Friday, September 7, 2007 2:05 AM

So.....

After the wash, it appears the " The Foreign Minister of Saddam’s Iraq " now has greater credibility than the US government.


Mission Accomplished !!!!!!!!!!!




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