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Mean Girls In Shindig

POSTED BY: Jmartine3592
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 14:17
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Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:52 PM

Makes me wonder what it would be like if Simon was the one to escort her to a society do.

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 9:03 PM

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Originally posted by Gavida:
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Originally posted by Static:
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Originally posted by whispering:
I'm a bit confused, i'm not that good in english but i think that mean girl was referring to the buffet table.

Kaylee: ...Theres some kind of hot cheese there.
Mean Girl: It's not as good as last year.
Kaylee: Oh, what did they have last year?
Mean Girl: Standards...
Kaylee: Oh...



Actually. . .look at the COMPLETE context. . .

K: Isn't this the greatest party? Everyone's so fancy. . .and there's some kind of hot cheese over there.

MG: It's not as good as last year.

See. . .Kaylee's original statement was about the party as a whole.




I have to agree with Whispering here, I see the conersation as made regarding to the buffet and the food.
Like some snobby high-class people who get the fancy food every day thinking it was a "fun" thing to have "standards" (standard food rations) at a party because it is kind of "exotic".

And therefor the "Oh" reply, since to Kaylee it is the normal thing and the fancy food is the cool stuff.

Keep flying,
Gavida




I think it was a mixture of the two. Like, the bitches were meaning it in the "the partys standards have been lowered", but poor Kaylee hasn't been raised in the snobby rich bitch world, and so could read it as what Whispering suggested. Kaylee could have interpreted it in either way, cause both are horribly insulting. And the bitches need to jump off a cliff.
I feel for Kaylee, cause I don't really have any knowledge of their world, and would have been like Kaylee.



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Sunday, September 2, 2007 2:18 AM

They were being snobs and implying that Kaylee didn't belong at the ball. She kind of makes herself stick out by talking about evertything being so fancy and the hot cheese, and her dress, while I think was lovely, did seem to clash with the dresses the other women were wearing. Yeah, they were real bitches and I'm glad old Murphy gave them what for.

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Sunday, September 2, 2007 4:54 PM

The girls were being bitches, kind of like in the way Cordelia was mean to willow in 'welcome to the hellmouth. I think that the girls knew she didnt really belong or perhaps she was in society, but wasn't really up with fashion.

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Sunday, September 2, 2007 5:26 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Trust me, the sweet, happy, cheery ones ?

When they snap, they snap ALL THE WAY.

Trust me, while Kaylee isn't the violent type, she does come from a rough and tumble backwater, and prolly wrestled with her friends and kin - big difference between shooting/killing folk (which she's not the type for) and whuppin someones ass when they've pushed your buttons.

That little pouty look the sweet ones get, that's a STOP SIGN, cause if you push it, you gonna have a fist in your eye, seriously... listen to the voice of experience here.

-frem
diefuxdie



But oh, would it have been NICE to see THAT instead of the pretictable Kaylee-gets-rescued scenario. I roll my eyes at it every time because that's exactly the sort of thing that has Kaylee acting like a child toward Simon: People protecting her like a little baby. She comes to expect that and can't deal with adversity without crying or "snapping". GROW UP, sweet little thing!

But.. um.. I guess that was supposed to be her character arc through the show... Never mind me. *g*

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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:27 AM

The script does refer to all those guys surrounding KayLee as "farmers" rather than navy guys, but they were dressed because it was the social event of the season.
The guy who insulted Banning has A LOT of credits on imdb (Larry Pennell).

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Sunday, December 23, 2007 6:41 PM

having just watched shindig;

the girls were insulting kaylee.
kaylee knew it, but was too hurt to reply. she was being her cheerful self and trying to make friends.

i loved when that old man came and rescued her esp insulting the lead girl. "space of a schoolboy's wink"

and when kaylee had all the men around her listening to her talk, one did ask her to dance, but got cut off by the old man.

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Tuesday, December 25, 2007 2:17 PM

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Originally posted by Gavida:
I have to agree with Whispering here, I see the conersation as made regarding to the buffet and the food.
Like some snobby high-class people who get the fancy food every day thinking it was a "fun" thing to have "standards" (standard food rations) at a party because it is kind of "exotic".



In earnest, I too first thought Banning and mean friends meant "standard food rations" or some such. But I now I believe she really just meant it in a derogatory way of "higher standards"; as in: "We got better better food last year; (and they didn't just let anyone in, either)."

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