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Problems with Simon's story?

POSTED BY: cait
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 23:32
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Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:36 AM

It might be the only explanation we have, but it's not an "official" explanation. It's speculation.

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"I beat up a couple of false b!Xes earlier."
-- Joss, 28 June 2007

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Thursday, August 30, 2007 7:35 AM

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but it's not an "official" explanation.


I meant from Universal.

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 5:11 PM

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Originally posted by sneaker98:

Truth be told, I didn't like Mr. Universe. Too much of a plot device. He really needed more of an introduction than "I think we need to call Mr. Universe"

"I do the job... and then I get paid. Go run your little world."
-Malcolm Reynolds



Yeah, I think he would have been known later in the Firefly episodes, except bloody gorram canceled the show!

sums up my feeling bout that.

"The cartrage fell out of my gun" a.k.a. I went off topic. Yeah, I think Mr. Universe would have been a contact in the series.





"The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vaccuuming systems." -River

"It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think -River

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 10:08 PM

OK here is another problem with the whole story that really bugs me. In Objects in space where they are all talking in the dining area. Mal said he thinks River is a reader. Book agrees with him and Simon just sits there looking stunned like he doesn't believe it however in the movie when Simon rescues River the guy tells him that River can read minds. Does that make sense to anyone else?

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 10:11 PM

No, it doesn't. I don't know how to explain it.

"The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vaccuuming systems." -River

"It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think -River

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by InpedendantLissa:
OK here is another problem with the whole story that really bugs me. In Objects in space where they are all talking in the dining area. Mal said he thinks River is a reader. Book agrees with him and Simon just sits there looking stunned like he doesn't believe it however in the movie when Simon rescues River the guy tells him that River can read minds. Does that make sense to anyone else?



i think he is stunned at Mal's immediate and non-judgemental response "she's a reader" - hoping they all just thought she was crazy - and forgetting the crew are more than dumb hicks. Simon never reads Mal right, don't forget.

make someone a browncoat today - don't drive nobody away

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NBZ
Saturday, September 1, 2007 11:14 PM

There is disbelief in his face. Question is what at.

We know that in Safe, River was to be burned at the stake for what she could do. What would this crew do? He even challenged Kaylee when she almost suggested that River was not a person.

At that point he is also not sure if they will be welcome any longer on the ship.

In the original remit did Simon know? I think he did. (The other explanation is that this was one of the things changed to accommodate the BDM)

For that matter, I am also convinced that Mal knew she was a reader in Safe.

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by nbz:


For that matter, I am also convinced that Mal knew she was a reader in Safe.



me too.

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Saturday, September 1, 2007 11:34 PM

You are better at dying

Hmmm... based on what?

Back on topic: For what it's worth, I, too, believe that Simon deliberatly kept intel about River's condition to himself. That tends to check out with his protectiveness and trust issues. Which, by the way, are perfectly justified in this matter.




TAM: Nickname for Scottish/Gaelic Tomas, meaning, "twin"

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NBZ
Sunday, September 2, 2007 12:00 AM

Interesting sig there Mobbex. I did not know that. It leaves interesting possibilities if that is how Joss had planned it.

I would base it on the "They forgot to be cows" bit. and also "She is OUR witch, so cut her the hell down".

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