JOSS WAS GOING TO KILL OFF MAL?!?!
POSTED BY: PhyreLight
UPDATED: Monday, August 27, 2007 05:15
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Yes, Joss did already kill Mal--in War Stories. Remember Niska's fun house? and "Haven't you killed me enough for one day?" 
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Originally posted by leadb:
Buffy died 3 or 4 times, if I remember correctly.Select to view spoiler:
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If I thought there was even a remote chance that Alyson Hannigan would come resurrect me, I would jump off a tower...after setting myself on fire...and shooting myself several times in the head with a nail gun (just to show willing).
I have often said that the only thing wrong with the '82 movie Flash Gordon was that Alyson Hannigan wasn't in it...
It was not like that when Alyson Hannigan got here!
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Here here!!! 
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When Joss said he knew Zoe could run the ship if Mal died I don't think he meant that he actually intended to do it. Not until somewhere near the end of the show at least. I just think he was talking about the strenght of her character. So many second in command characters in shows and books could never actually be the true leader and that annoys me some but not Zoe. She is second, not because she couldn't be first, but because she chooses to follow Mal. And while things may have been named after the ship Joss has previously described the show as being Mal's story.
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Originally posted by PhyreLight:
Anyone could easily be killed off!
Except Mal. Mal bought Serenity, Mal named Serenity, Mal recruited the crew for Serenity.
Mal is the only one that needs Serenity. He needs her to fill the huge gaping hole in his soul. Everybody else (pre-movie) has a something to live for without Serenity. Zoe has Wash, Inara has her guild sisters, Kaylee will thrive anywhere there are big engines to fondle and cute men to chase. All Book needs is to travel, learn, and teach; he can do that as well on his own. Simon and River need someplace to hide but all they really need to find is an out of the way town that needs a doctor and ain't to chuffed with witch burning. Jayne just needs a bunk.
Mal is what holds the crew together. Zoe stays with Mal because she owes him her loyalty many times over - Mal saved her during the war now Zoe has to save Mal during the peace. Wash needs Zoe so he isn't going anywhere without her. Inara still hasn't admitted it but she needs Mal to love in the way she can't love a client. Kaylee needs Mal to be her father while she finishes growing up. Book needs Mal to save, not necessarily in the religious sense but in the moral sense. Simon and River need Mal to come swooping in when they meet people who do get chuffed about witch burning. And lastly Jayne needs Mal to do the planning and teach him not to be so treacherous that he winds up dead in a ditch after crossing one too many of the wrong kinds of people.
Some of this changes after the movie of course but the changes mostly just re-arrange how everybody relates to Mal. Now Zoe and Mal have traded places and it's Mal who must help and heal a wounded Zoe. Kaylee has grown up a bit but still I think needs her 'Captain'. Simon - now relieved of a good deal of the responsibility for River now has his relationship with Kaylee holding him to the crew. River now needs Mal to be her father while she grows up out of the childhood she never really had. Jayne still needs Mal to do the thinking and provide that moral compass he so sorely lacks.
David
'Geeks can't admit that anything worthwhile was invented before 1981. Soon, "making cocoa" will be called "milk hacking."' - Lore Sjoberg
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Ah, yes! All very valid points, daveshayne! I agree on all points except on Book... but that's another thread!
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Originally posted by PhyreLight:
Ah, yes! All very valid points, daveshayne! I agree on all points except on Book... but that's another thread!
Yeah, Book is hard to pin down. Shadowy past and all.
David
'Geeks can't admit that anything worthwhile was invented before 1981. Soon, "making cocoa" will be called "milk hacking."' - Lore Sjoberg
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Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Thanks for letting all those who don't have the SE know. Reeeeeallly happy now.
Though, the good thing is Joss later said in the SE commentary that since Mal's death never happened, so he was able to appear in the movie.
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You still don't get it do you? Some of us would have liked to have been SURPRISED discovering this on our own. Can't say that now can I?
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