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KATESFRIEND

Friday, August 10, 2007 11:13 AM

Yeah! More Mal4prez soon! How soon? OK, I'll be patient... I think I can, I think I can...

LEIASKY

Friday, August 10, 2007 3:05 PM

>BTW, BackStories book II is being beta'd - in exchange, I'm betaing an excellent continuation of Leiasky's On the edge, so you'd best all read that again to get ready!

*singsongs* I get to read before youuuuu all dooooo.

Heeee. Ok, I'm done. I'm done!

I've only read the first two chapters so far but they're damn good! And she'd better send me the next today. I keep nagging. And I think its working. She'll get done faster (and so will I for that matter) if we push each other:)

"A government is a body of people usually notably ungoverned."

DANNIISUPERNOVA

Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:21 AM

Bump

MAL4PREZ

Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:00 PM

Sorry platonist! I asked for your thoughts and then don't reply forever... life has just been like that...

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Originally posted by Platonist:
River isn't feeling very cherished or valued anymore... except to be exploited while helping on a job. And Inara isn't there to scold... Mal!!! LOL

That's interesting... I never quite thought of it as exploitation, though it certainly is that!

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PLATONIST

Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:43 PM

Ya know, I hadn't thought of it that way until a second or third viewing of the DVD.
I do tend to make literary connections. It's the nature of my job.

Dicken's Oliver Twist comes to mind. Under-age orphans drawn into a life of thievery by exploitive adults.

Mal is DARK DARK in the BDM, no argument there, and he does USE her at Lilac, knowing she is bat shit crazy and could be physically harmed. He is even sarcastic about it "there could be tears".

I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I really don't think Mal has any real affinity for River.
He recognizes her abuse at the Alliance's hands and may relate to it, but he only celebrates her for "what is useful to him".

At the end of the BDM we see more acceptance of her as a person, and not just a useful weapon to be used, because she proves some level of control. But, I have no doubt that he will kill her if she threatens the crew or what Mal deems as a liability to "me and mine".

I think Mal's unconditional endearment of River is more fandom then canon.

They've already had two Mexican standoffs in the movie...where do you see this going?

NBZ

Friday, August 17, 2007 12:28 AM

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I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I really don't think Mal has any real affinity for River.

Possibly true. The only time he really talks to her in the whole series is near the end of OiS. Apart from that (I have said this before) they could be on entirely different ships.

Even in he BDM he only talks to her on the bridge because she has a gun pointed at him.

Mal is a hollowed out person. The only person he shows real emotional contact with is Kaylee - and even she is rebelling by the time of the BDM, blaming him for everything.

On the other hand I don't think he was "using" using her for the job in the BDM taking the original drafts and some bits from Virtual Firefly ( http://www.stillflying.net) which were possibly from the early draft of Serenity, she was supposed to say "I am the brains of this operation". Her use is potentially (or not) suggested by her. She does not enter the building 'til after the violence has been completed. Reavers are an entirely different matter, one that cannot be accounted for. But he could have said no.

What Mal says to Simon is more on the lines of he is annoyed with him, not saying he does not care about River.

If it came down to it, I am certain he would shoot/kill River. I would say that is more a point of tension between him and Simon rather than River. granted she would not be too pleased to end up dead, but would she want to be allowed kill the people she cares about? (this point has potential to derail any topic.)

I don't think Mal has the capability to be unconditionally endeared to anybody. Nor the intention to ever be so. When Inara bluffs, he calls it, even though it is the last thing he wants.

Saying all that, I do think there is some endearment between them. With Caveats and Addendum's.

Slightly off topic (me? never!), but I must have watched the Pilot episode Serenity a dozen times before I realised where (I think) Mal decided the Tams were his problem and not something he should be rid of. (It's the bit before he talks to Kaylee in the infirmary.)

PLATONIST

Friday, August 17, 2007 1:22 AM

Oh, I don't think River had any problem with going for a ride. Mal could have said NO, and he does wait until they have secured the station before bringing her in. I just feel that he put her usefulness (on a heist) before her safety and that makes me feel bad for both of them.

And I agree, Mal doesn't let to many people in. He is affectionate with Kaylee and protective of Inara. That is all he is capable of in his hollowness. He has a darkness. I'll give him that.

MAL4PREZ

Friday, August 17, 2007 3:55 PM

So, to not hijack the thread more than we already have, let's move here:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=12&t=23843

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WYTCHCROFT

Sunday, August 19, 2007 2:00 AM

- a vump in the night -

RIVERFLAN

Monday, September 3, 2007 2:43 AM

You might try the Dr. Tam Journals series. I find them enjoyable, and hope you do too.

"The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vaccuuming systems." -River

"It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think -River

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