Who is scariest?

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UPDATED: Sunday, April 4, 2004 03:39
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OKKAY

Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:36 PM

I disagree about Book because to me, he seems to be someone with a dark and possibly violent past, but has grown past it and now seeks redemption/forgiveness by being a preacher. All of his violent actions after we've met him have been honorable - taking out Dobson, saving Mal, etc.
About River's reading of him, it depends on whether she was viewing his past or his future. I tend to believe it was something from his past. But if it was in fact foreshadowing, then yes, I would be very scared. But I don't think so.

For River, I think by now we know her trigger, which is Blue Sun stuff. Except for in War Stories, but at least then she was shooting at the bad guys.

Mal doesn't kill unless he has to. Same with Zoe.

Wash, Kaylee, Inara, and Simon... nah.

So I'd have to say Jayne because from what we've seen, he's controlled by money. I think it's scary when someone has no allegiances and will turn on you if paid well enough.

JENTLE

Thursday, April 1, 2004 10:07 AM

I'd have to go with Jayne because I don't trust him. In himself he's not all that scary, but I know that if you take your eyes off him for a second he'll screw you for a mug of mudder's milk.

Book doesn't scare me because I really think all his evilness is in the past.... I want to know what he was involved in, but I don't get that he's going back to it.

River.... I just think she's way more likely to pour soup in our hair.

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Every well-bred petty crook knows that the small concealable weapons always go to the far left of the place setting.

STATIC

Thursday, April 1, 2004 10:14 AM

The scariest rutter _I_ can think of is the FIRST Fox exec who said. . .

Yeah. . .I don't think this "Firefly" show is such a good idea after all. Hey. . .let's put Paris Hilton on a FARM! THAT is good TV!

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"Wash. . .we got some local color happening. A grand entrance would not go amiss."

WHOODAHN

Thursday, April 1, 2004 12:26 PM

Inara, it has to be Inara.

That woman could kill me with sex anytime.

SPOOKYDONKEY

Thursday, April 1, 2004 1:59 PM

I'd have to say Kaylee.

I mean... What if she gave me a disapproving look? That'd just break my poor little heart.

If Kaylee didn't like me, that would mean that, in all probability, I was just about the lowest form of life in the 'verse, and that would be worse than the worst thing anyone else on that boat could do to me.

Although leaving me exposed to the outside while the ship climbs out of the atmosphere does come in a very close second.

BROWNCOAT1

Thursday, April 1, 2004 3:22 PM

Definitely Mal.

Why? Oh there is that whole despair, anger, resentment thing going on. He lost his faith, lost his cause, and if what we saw of the "real" him in War Stories is any indication, Malcolm Reynolds is one man you don't want mad at you.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

HARDWARE

Thursday, April 1, 2004 3:27 PM

I'm going to go with Mal, most of the time. Sure, River can be unpredictable and lethal, but it hasn't been turned against the crew,... yet. (Exceptin' Jayne, and River was really going after the blue sun logo.) I agree that Book has a dark and mysterious past, but he's grown or is trying to grow past it. Jayne is a thug. He's as unpleasant as a knee to the groin. Painful but uncomplicated.

Mal is a ball of worms. He's brave, honest and decent and at the same time he's a rebellious petty criminal with a murderous streak. He hasn't left the war behind where it really counts, inside. He's still carrying around those skills and reactions from fighting the war and on top of that he's bitter about how it ended. Not that he backed the losing side, but that the leadership of that side wasn't willing to back it as far as he was.

Now, one exception stands out in my mind. Zoe. Just from her little discussion about making babies with Wash in HOG I would put her as scariest,... if you threatened her child. Can you imagine what she would do if her child were kidnapped? Everyone, Mal, Jayne, Book, even Wash would be trailing in her wake as she blazed a path right in to the den of the poor bastard who dared mess with her family.

I'd sooner get between a mother bear and her cub than see hair on her child's head harmed. Tampering with nukes would be safer than risking that woman's anger.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

ASTRIANA

Thursday, April 1, 2004 4:08 PM

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Originally posted by Hardware:
Now, one exception stands out in my mind. Zoe. Just from her little discussion about making babies with Wash in HOG I would put her as scariest,... if you threatened her child. Can you imagine what she would do if her child were kidnapped? Everyone, Mal, Jayne, Book, even Wash would be trailing in her wake as she blazed a path right in to the den of the poor bastard who dared mess with her family.

I'd sooner get between a mother bear and her cub than see hair on her child's head harmed. Tampering with nukes would be safer than risking that woman's anger.

This is where I gotta fall. Zoe all the way. She goes out of her way to respect her war buddies & such, but harm one o' hers, and you won't walk away. Cases in point:

Serenity - "She dies, you'll never make it to the Feds." To Simon, regarding Kaylee

The Message - Shoots Tracey, after he shoots (at) Wash. Tracey: "You shot me!" Zoe (with determination, and aiming for another): "Damn right."

Then, of course, there's the aforementioned conversation with Wash about having children.
Heart of Gold - "I ain't so afraid o' losin' somethin' that I ain't gonna try to have it. You and I would make a beautiful baby, an' I wanna meet that child someday. End of discussion."

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

ANKHAGOGO

Friday, April 2, 2004 4:46 AM

This is a pretty good question.

Mal doesn't scare me at all, because I very much get how he thinks and why he thinks it. If I were him, I'd be just as pissed off at the 'verse.He's got a lot of reason to be angry, and I sympathize with his motivations.
But Mal's not gonna shoot you for snorin' too loud. You do pretty much have to give him a reason before he even slugs you. And if you give him that reason, well, then it's your own damn fault and don't stand next to any engines.

River -- well, I think someone said, as long as you always predict that you can't predict what River's gonna do, you'll be ok. Now from a crewmember point of view, I can see where she'd be the scariest, because they don't know her Blue Sun-phobia, and we do.
But I generally just feel too sorry for River to be scared of her. I mean, she knows she's broken, and that must just be hugely frustrating, especially for someone that intelligent. I want to give her hot chocolate with little marshmellows and maybe a cookie.

Jayne -- Yeah, I do agree, there is something scary about someone driven solely by money, but I don't think that's all there is to Jayne. Oh, that's alot of it, but remember how worried he was about Kaylee, and remember how he didn't want Mal to tell the Tam kids he ratted them out. For whatever reason, Jayne didn't want to be thought badly of -- which means that he's taken at least one baby step toward actually caring about his fellow crewmembers, and one baby step away from being interested in only money.
Not that I'd trust him as far as I could spit a dead rat, though......

Book -- I don't know that I'd call Book "scary", but I sure would be highly suspicious of him. I mean, he definitely can be threatening, but that just makes me wary of him, not scared. Now I may revise that opinion in the future, but right now, I'd just keep my eye on him all the time.

I've got to go with the Blue Hands. Part of my deal is that, in my entertainment, I can see the points of view of almost any character, and usually justify it from their point of view, but I just can't even begin to understand their motivations and/or rationalizations. For that matter, I find Atherton Wing scarier than any of our crew, because I don't understand the kind of mindset he has.

"So...would his job be available?"

T

Friday, April 2, 2004 10:47 AM

I think each person can be scary given the right circumstances (except maybe Kaylee), but Mal gets my vote overall.

Mal seems to have some unresolved issues and it seems that things not going smooth might start getting to a person after awhile. He's had moments, but I think if he were to really snap, he'd do some serious damage.

But in minor points, I have to agree that any person who let's money run them is someone to be suspicious of. I think with River and Jayne the fact that the crew knows they have to be alert around them takes away from their scariness. River's unpredictibility is very predictable.

Now, not knowing Book's whole history makes him suspicious, but I agree with the person who said he seems methodical. Once again people you have to be alert around makes things a little less scary. You kinda expect them to pull something. I'm a very suspicious person in general so I expect things from Book, Jayne, and River. Shoot, it may turn out that the crew are even more suspicious of Book than we are.

I think Zoe could be scary too though. Not Mal scary, but quite scary. I agree with the mother/child theory. Most mom's would kill for their children.

But I think Wash could be a darkhorse (no pun intended) here. If someone were to murder Zoe, well, I think he might snap. He didn't do anything (in OOG) because even though she was hurt, she was still alive. If she died, he might do something stupid and everyone knows truly stupid acts are more than a little frightening.

I'm not sure about Inara, she seems iffy. Sometimes she seems rather strong and sometimes weak. I wonder about her getting to any scary level. Simon doesn't quite suit me as the really scary type either.

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