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To save America, we need another 9/11

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Friday, August 10, 2007 1:16 AM

At least that's the opinion of a columnist for Philadelphia Daily News named Stu Bykofsky.

Here's what he wrote in an article:

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ONE MONTH from The Anniversary, I'm thinking another 9/11 would help America.

What kind of a sick bastard would write such a thing?

A bastard so sick of how splintered we are politically - thanks mainly to our ineptitude in Iraq - that we have forgotten who the enemy is.

It is not Bush and it is not Hillary and it is not Daily Kos or Bill O'Reilly or Giuliani or Barack. It is global terrorists who use Islam to justify their hideous sins, including blowing up women and children.

Iraq has fractured the U.S. into jigsaw pieces of competing interests that encourage our enemies. We are deeply divided and division is weakness.

Most Americans today believe Iraq was a mistake. Why?

Not because Americans are "anti-war."

Americans have turned their backs because the war has dragged on too long and we don't have the patience for a long slog. We've been in Iraq for four years, but to some it seems like a century. In contrast, Britain just pulled its soldiers out of Northern Ireland where they had been, often being shot at, almost 40 years.

That's not the American way.

In Iraq, we don't believe our military is being beaten on the battleground. It's more that there is no formal "battleground." There is the drip of daily casualties and victory is not around the corner. Americans are impatient. We like fast food and fast war.

Americans loved the 1991 Gulf War. It raged for just 100 hours when George H.W. Bush ended it with a declaration of victory. He sent a half-million troops into harm's way and we suffered fewer than 300 deaths.

America likes wars shorter than the World Series.

Bush I did everything right, Bush II did everything wrong - but he did it with the backing of Congress.

Because the war has been a botch so far, Democrats and Republicans are attacking one another, when they aren't attacking themselves. The dialog of discord echoes across America.

Turn back to 9/11.

Remember the community of outrage and national resolve? America had not been so united since the first Day of Infamy - 12/7/41.

We knew who the enemy was then.

We knew who the enemy was shortly after 9/11.

Because we have mislaid 9/11, we have endless sideshow squabbles about whether the surge is working, if we are "safer" now, whether the FBI should listen in on foreign phone calls, whether cops should detain odd-acting "flying imams," whether those plotting alleged attacks on Fort Dix or Kennedy airport are serious threats or amateur bumblers. We bicker over the trees while the forest is ablaze.

America's fabric is pulling apart like a cheap sweater.

What would sew us back together?

Another 9/11 attack.

The Golden Gate Bridge. Mount Rushmore. Chicago's Wrigley Field. The Philadelphia subway system. The U.S. is a target-rich environment for al Qaeda.

Is there any doubt they are planning to hit us again?

If it is to be, then let it be. It will take another attack on the homeland to quell the chattering of chipmunks and to restore America's righteous rage and singular purpose to prevail.

The unity brought by such an attack sadly won't last forever.

The first 9/11 proved that.

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RUE
Friday, August 10, 2007 1:41 AM

I say we fire the dude's ass! Let him join Churchill in the unemployment line !

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Friday, August 10, 2007 1:18 PM

How bout not having a war in the first fucking place.. but that'd make just too much sense, wouldn't it ?

Seriously, for what we've spent on this ridiculous crap already, we coulda put a price on these bastards heads so high they'd be bringin em in by the dozens and we wouldn't have had to do jack diddly but stand there with a basket to collect em and hand out the checks.

And STILL it woulda cost less, but nooo, the MIC had to get their cut, right ?

It's insanity, is what it is, and whoever wrote this bit belongs in a goddamn asylum, or even better, slap a rifle in his hand and put his ass on patrol in Haditha, instead of cheerleading from his plush suburbian gated community.

Grrr.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, August 10, 2007 1:24 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:


Seriously, for what we've spent on this ridiculous crap already, we coulda put a price on these bastards heads so high they'd be bringin em in by the dozens and we wouldn't have had to do jack diddly but stand there with a basket to collect em and hand out the checks.


Frem, you think too clearly and realistically to be the President, but I'd still vote for ya!

Creme de la Frem Chrisisall

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Friday, August 10, 2007 1:39 PM

I'm having trouble getting excited about statements like this anymore. I'm hearing them more and more, and I think I'm just getting disillusioned that people can't see the inherent flaws in that logic. Just dealing with the wrongheadedness (and btw, where did the word wrongheaded make its way into our vernacular?) of this line of thinking is difficult. Do people actually think that they're being so insightful by opposing their own natural perspective that they can't (or won't) see the shortcomings of such a mindset?

Amiton.

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Friday, August 10, 2007 1:42 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
How bout not having a war in the first fucking place.. but that'd make just too much sense, wouldn't it ?


I went out drinking last night and I'm suffering because of it this morning. Should I make an attempt to try to alleviate my symptoms? You know, take an aspirin, re-hydrate, eat a greasy meal, start drinking again? Or should I sit around and lament the fact that I went out drinking in the first place?
Which do you think will be most helpful to me now?

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Friday, August 10, 2007 1:54 PM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:

Which do you think will be most helpful to me now?

Learning from your mistake. But we really don't do that, do we? You'll drink too much again without hydrating and vitamin-ing-up first, and we'll have another war without preparing a long term strategy or determining it's potential effectiveness or necessity...it's the way of things, I guess.

Chrisisall

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Friday, August 10, 2007 2:58 PM

You know, aside from the fact that we invaded Iraq for specious reasons, there IS such a thing as "the Powell Doctrine", and it was created from the bitter experience of Vietnam. It was meant to avoid quagmires like Northern Ireland and Iraq, and it goes

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The questions posed by the Powell Doctrine, which should be answered affirmatively before military action, are:

1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?
2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?
3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
4. Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?
5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
7. Is the action supported by the American people?
8. Do we have genuine broad international support?

It seems to me that every single point of the Doctrine was violated in the Iraq invasion and, not too surprisingly, we're in a quagmire. Lesson have been learned, we just didn't pay attention to them. I'm with Frem- If we don't learn from the past we're doomed to repeat it.

Oh yeah, I'm with Rue- This guy is a sick bastard and should be on the unemployment line.




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Friday, August 10, 2007 4:31 PM

What an ugly, ugly view of humanity this joker has. And for the sake of family values let's hope all the mothers in this country die horribly--that'd bring families together right quick, wouldn't it? And while we're at it, lets put all our children in Skinner boxes so they'll grow up to be artistic geniuses! Reminds me of a bizarro video I saw the other day on YouTube:



Good news for the dems, right?

Yeah, people wanting to leave a legacy for their grandchildren are just "narcissistic." When did the right decide that Americans are hopelessly irrational and childish? Or has that been the premise all along?

Guess we've achieved the Chinese curse. These are some plenty interesting times.


HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Friday, August 10, 2007 5:05 PM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody: I went out drinking last night and I'm suffering because of it this morning. Should I make an attempt to try to alleviate my symptoms? You know, take an aspirin, re-hydrate, eat a greasy meal, start drinking again? Or should I sit around and lament the fact that I went out drinking in the first place?
Which do you think will be most helpful to me now?


All time #1 works every time hang over cure:
Drink one small can of V-8 Juice with 1/4 teaspoon of cayenne pepper. Go outside and fall asleep in the direct sunlight wearing only shorts for 2 hours, or sit in a sauna for 1/2 hour. Sweating is the key, when you wake up rehydrate thoroughly. If you still feel sick go back to sleep till it works or you're sunburnt. Then you won't feel the pain of the hangover as much as the sunburn.

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