HELP SAVE ENTERPRISE

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WINTERFELL

Tuesday, March 30, 2004 6:15 PM

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Originally posted by Xarr:
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Originally posted by GHOULMAN:
I do hope all my Firefly friends work hard to beat up every ENT fan they see. They deserve it.

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Originally posted by Winterfell:
F--- Enterprise and the NX-01 it rode in on.

HOLY CRAP!! I didn't like the show either, but what's up with flamming a guy for posting about something he likes and you don't. It's not like he came to your house and beat you with a boxset. Chill out before you give yourself a freakin' heartattack.

I'm guessing you two were beat up a lot as kids..... by Star Trek fans.

ORRRRRrrrrrr... you could read the other thread that was posted by the SAME guy where we already were talking about all this.. I was flaming for the double post. which I happily do.. the fact that some people get so bent out of shape about flaming offends me

so yeah..

we're not all good people with kind hearts..

but some of us are huge trek fans.. me for example.. if you have watched something for over 10 years and bought the merchandise and seen the films and had long in depth discussions about hypothetical sciences that don't exist, you sometimes feel the right to express your opinion on the subject.. so unless I was beating myself up, no, no star trek fans beat me up.. however, I still joyfully stand behind the fall of enterprise and my original post..

cheers mate!

BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, March 30, 2004 6:18 PM

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Originally posted by Xarr:
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Originally posted by GHOULMAN:
I do hope all my Firefly friends work hard to beat up every ENT fan they see. They deserve it.

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Originally posted by Winterfell:
F--- Enterprise and the NX-01 it rode in on.

HOLY CRAP!! I didn't like the show either, but what's up with flamming a guy for posting about something he likes and you don't. It's not like he came to your house and beat you with a boxset. Chill out before you give yourself a freakin' heartattack.

I'm guessing you two were beat up a lot as kids..... by Star Trek fans.

So insulting Ghoulman & Winterfell is better than what you are chastising them for how exactly?

I agree their comments are a bit harsh, but that does not excuse using a similar tact w/ them.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

KEVSCOAT

Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:42 PM

I thought there was a movement a while back between Ent fans & Firefly fans to support each other in letter-writing efforts. It was before I joined this BBS, but I remember hearing about it on TrekBBS. So, is the sentiment around here that there is no support for Enterprise? It may have been a different group of Browncoats.

Well, I for one hope the show is not cancelled. I definitely think a changing of the guard is needed (fire Berman & Braga in favor of bringing in some new creative blood), but I think the show has potential. Then again, maybe 3 seasons is too long to try & gain the public's favor.

WHOODAHN

Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:35 PM

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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
I tried liking Enterprise, I really did, but it is so badly written, the plots & ideas are nothing more than rehashings of old Star Trek stories, and the disregard for the ST timeline did nothing to endear me to this show.

I really have to agree with you. I tried to put my thoughts in different words but you summed it up so well that I'm going to steal your words.

Just think of my post as a new episode of Enterprise.

GHOULMAN

Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:12 PM

Flame? Oh... I can flame baby, but this ain't a flame. Please look up 'flame war' for the facts. So no insult to the person posting the SAVE ENTERPRISE thing - some people juggle geese!

It's just my opinion regarding a horrible and insulting show. Save it? Get that fanboy a black eye stat!

GHOULMAN

Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:16 PM

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Originally posted by kevscoat:
I thought there was a movement a while back between Ent fans & Firefly fans to support each other in letter-writing efforts. It was before I joined this BBS, but I remember hearing about it on TrekBBS. SNIP!

The TrekBBS. The TREKBBS!?!?!?! You mean the BBS filled with nothing but marketing moles typing out lies and 'positive copy' from thier hiding place under Rick Bermans' desk eating ketchup and month old tribbles?

No. No one at the TrekBBS gives a rats ass about Joss Whedon. Those people, I have seen, have done more to hurt Firefly than help. Trust me, I have had my time on the TrekBBS and there are about 16 TV producers out there that hate my guts.

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:27 PM

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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
I have not watched an episode of Enterprise since the last part of the first season, not a full episode anyway. I have tried tuning in once or twice since, but it always leaves me flat.

I got that one beat. Besides the pilot, which I barely watched, I have not been able to sit through an episode of Enterprise - I've tried. Honestly, I've tried. Nothing about it grabs me, interests me or even offends me on the level that I find Andromeda offensive.

It falls the same way as SG:1 for me, I just don;t see how the show has lasted as long as it did, but if you wish to waste 44 minutes of your life, I shan't stop you - some people would say the same thing about my B5 fixation and *our* (we're all in this one) FF obsession.

I trace it back to Voyager - I saw the pilot and maybe two or three episodes of that - yet ask me about TNG, DS9 and Kirk & Co and I'll go misty eyed.

Just don't see why "rival" shows should stick up for one another - if you like the show, say you like it, write in. I'm afraid that doesn't do it any more (does anyone believe that FF was saved for artistic and not dollar reasons? Same with Family Guy, we bought the box sets and they saw the legs were there), but go for your life. What benefit is there in an FF fan writing in to save Enterprise, and then not watching it? Would just get cancelled the next year, and $40 million plus would be wasted - could have been another genre show, might have been a good one, and would make it less likely in the future that shows on the bubble would get the benefit of doubt.

"I threw up on your bed"

MISGUIDED BY VOICES

Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:49 PM

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
Trust me, I have had my time on the TrekBBS and there are about 16 TV producers out there that hate my guts.

So what's that, about a third of the number of producers on one episode of Enterprise?

Line-Dance Producer
Co-Ed-Executive Producer
"They gave me this title because they were out of free t-shirts when I got to the head of the line" producer
"My other show is reality based" producer

"I threw up on your bed"

KILLEDBYRIVERSBRAIN

Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:56 PM

The way I see it this guy (girl?) likes the show and is willing to fight for it. I'd be willing to stand toe-to-toe and physically fight whoever will save Angel if I win, and I'm sure I haven't aimed my efforts at the best possible target every time.

I consider myself a Trek fan (my trivia skills are formidable), though I won't go into my opinion of Enterprise except to say I don't watch it, and couldn't even tell you the first and last names of the bridge crew.

That said, I don't have any plans to support Enterprise, but I'm not going to say I want it cancelled and I'm not saying anything against this person. I wish him or her the best in all efforts to save Enterprise.

I hope you like Guinness, sir. I find it a refreshing substitute for . . . food.
-Jack O'Neill

DORAN

Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:26 PM

"ENT is the worst show on TV."

Oh boy, is this ever an emotional and very exaggerated statement. Come on you can't tell me that you seriously believe that Enterprise is the worst show on TV. Sure it's not Firefly.. but I can come up with a page full of show on TV that I think are worse than this. Heck reality TV alone provide a whole host.

My advice (for people who don't want to be taken with a grain of salt) is to not attack but instead take a step back, then say what you mean like an adult.

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