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POSTED BY: PhoenixRose
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2X2
Tuesday, July 24, 2007 9:57 AM

From what I have discovered, the script was a TYPO... the proper spelling is 'Londinium', like the Roman city in Britain.

Joss himself has just confirmed this in a thread on Whedonesque about the new QmX Blue Sun posters, one of which is a Londinum poster, which he pointed out was spelled incorrectly. Now there will only be the original 300 poster sets being sold at Comic Con with the mis-spelling (which everyone predicts will make it an instant collector's item) and the rest will be corrected to read 'Londinium'.

So fear not, you had it right!
Oh, and you have the pronunciation correct too :oD

ETA: oh, here's the link to the Whedonesque post if anyone's interested: http://whedonesque.com/comments/13798

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
I know nothing about RPG, but here's my take:

I've always thought the word was pronounced with four syllables: lond-in-i-um. Without the i, it's lond-di-num, which sounds a lot like laudanum, which is an opiate. That seems weird to me.

Except... I just checked the Serenity the Pilot script and it's spelled without the i. Oh my stars - have I been wrong all this time?

How do you guys pronouce it?

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Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Platonist:
Actually it was "aluminum" first, as it is in the US today- Al on the table.

The British changed it to "aluminium" to align the spelling with the other element spellings, such as sodium.

Yes... a difference, but not a distortion.



but both spellings were put forward by the same man. The Europeans chose Aluminium and the Americans chose to use Aluminum.

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Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by hobbleit:
both spellings were put forward by the same man. The Europeans chose Aluminium and the Americans chose to use Aluminum.


So what's wrong with that?

Glad we got Londinium worked out. Never trust the RPG book


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Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:17 PM

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Originally posted by 2x2:
From what I have discovered, the script was a TYPO... the proper spelling is 'Londinium', like the Roman city in Britain.

Thanks 2x2! That's a relief - not the not being wrong part as much as that "Londinum" would just be annoying.

But speaking of punctuation (I know, no one was LOL!) has anyone else noticed how JK Rowling uses colons? I don't have the book here for a quote, but she'd use them like this:

Harry ran into the trees: The shadows were very dark.

Kind of like semi-colons, but with the second part capitalized. Is this an English (like England-English) thing? I don't recall seeing it before.

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Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:14 PM

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Thanks 2x2! That's a relief - not the not being wrong part as much as that "Londinum" would just be annoying.


Happy to be of service ;o) (though, I kinda of liked Londinum, personally )

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Originally posted by mal4prez:

But speaking of punctuation (I know, no one was LOL!) has anyone else noticed how JK Rowling uses colons? I don't have the book here for a quote, but she'd use them like this:

Harry ran into the trees: The shadows were very dark.

Kind of like semi-colons, but with the second part capitalized. Is this an English (like England-English) thing? I don't recall seeing it before.



I noticed that too! I've never seen it before that I can recall though, and I also found it very curious.

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Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:45 PM

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Originally posted by 2x2:
This is an excellent thread!

And since I saw way up at the top a reply about character names, I would like to ask if anyone can confirm the proper spelling of the planet Londinum / Londinium

Acording to the RPG, the planet is actually Londinum - no extra 'i'. There is a map of the worlds in the RPG that shows this spelling.

This image also appears in the Serenity Visual Companion, however, the spelling in the write up has it as Londinium, with the second 'i'.

I haven't read the novelization yet, but I was wondering if there are any other instances out there to give us a clear indication of which is the correct spelling?

I've been using Londinum because I first saw it in the RPG, and have been thinking most people have been using Londinium in error. Now that I've found it in the Visual Companion as well, I'd rather be sure before I put my foot in it pointing it out to anyone.

Anyone?



Ah, I recall that it's Londinium, Joss says so. (*can't remember the source, other than Joss.*)

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Monday, August 13, 2007 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
But speaking of punctuation (I know, no one was LOL!) has anyone else noticed how JK Rowling uses colons? I don't have the book here for a quote, but she'd use them like this:

Harry ran into the trees: The shadows were very dark.

Kind of like semi-colons, but with the second part capitalized. Is this an English (like England-English) thing? I don't recall seeing it before.



It's not standard UK English. Probably an idiosyncrasy that went uncorrected by her editor - I know of one who always puts four dots in ellipsis instead of three...(.)

On the word-construction topic, I am convinced that "anymore" is an acceptable word. My flatmate is convinced that it has to be written "any more". Any advice?

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Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:17 PM

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Originally posted by Eloisa:
It's not standard UK English. Probably an idiosyncrasy that went uncorrected by her editor - I know of one who always puts four dots in ellipsis instead of three...(.)



Um... aren't you supposed to use four dots when it's ending a complete sentence or something? I'm never quite sure; I kind of just throw in 3 or 4 randomly.

But now I wonder if the Rowling's use of the colon is going to become standard, as new writers copy her. Interesting. If a writer is popular enough, they can create their own punctuation rules LOL!

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On the word-construction topic, I am convinced that "anymore" is an acceptable word. My flatmate is convinced that it has to be written "any more". Any advice?


I use "anymore". No idea of the correctness of that - except that both options come up on dictionary.com. There's no explanation of one versus the other though.

Of course, things may be different in England!

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Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:25 PM

I'm fairly sure anymore is a word, and anymore versus any more is kind of like everyday versus every day. For example: "You can't have any more caffeine." would be correct, whereas "You can't have anymore caffeine." would not be. "I can't take this anymore." would be a proper way to use 'anymore'. Anymore means 'any longer' or 'nowadays' which makes the rather odd-sounding "That's just how it is anymore." to be grammatically correct. 'Any more' means 'something more' 'in addition' 'a greater quantity' etc. See?

Amd I didn't notice any colon use like that in Deahtly Hallows. Can you give me a page number?


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Wednesday, August 15, 2007 4:10 PM

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Amd I didn't notice any colon use like that in Deahtly Hallows. Can you give me a page number?

I thought this would be a pain in the butt to find, but I opened the book randomly and got one! Page 265. For those who don't have the book on hand:

"STOP!" Harry thundered, and the powerful voice of Runcorn echoed through the Atrium: The wizards sealing the fireplaces froze.

Hmm... there's another on 269, then 272, then 278...

I don't mind it; it actually flows well. I've just never seen this usage before.

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