Crappy Sci Fi

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LIVINGIMPAIRED

Sunday, October 6, 2002 8:04 PM

We've been talking for a while about shows that get it right. But shows that get it wrong can be equally enlightening. I'd like to propose the following shows:

Space Above and Beyond - too depressing.

Star Trek DS9 - Started OK, but turned into Space Above and Beyond in the later seasons.

Sliders, once it went on Sci Fi - like X-files, it was forced to continue long after it had jumped the shark. It was just painful to watch.

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"You still don't get it. It's not about right. It's not about wrong... It's about Power." —Morph-O-Monster, "Lessons"

RINGWRAITH

Sunday, October 6, 2002 10:37 PM

This could be interesting...

Battlestar Gallactica: this Star Wars wannabe is beyond horrendous, especially when they had the season that basically took place on Earth in the 1970s. Purely awful stuff.

Harsh Realm: you know why this show was cancelled after three episodes? Not because of lack of marketing on Fox's part, but because the show sucked. Does everything Carter touch turn to garbage?

Dark Skies: a blatant X-Files rip-off which aired while the X-Files was still decent and popular. Poorly written and acted.

Star Trek: Voyager: this show had potential but instead flushed it down the toilet. Technobabble was what this series was all about, plus it had some of the most obnoxious, annoying characters in Trek history.

Mutant X: I don't know if it's sci-fi or not but either way Marvel should have sued these guys into oblivion.

The Visitor: this show had a decent premise but since the storytelling and the acting was so terrible nothing could save the show. Just because "Independence Day" was a hit doesn't mean you can make a good TV series.

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ZICSOFT

Monday, October 7, 2002 1:27 AM

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Originally posted by Ringwraith:

Battlestar Gallactica: this Star Wars wannabe is beyond horrendous, especially when they had the season that basically took place on Earth in the 1970s. Purely awful stuff.

Yeah, I could just see them watching Star Wars, and putting together the TV vesion. Evil empire? Check. Plucky rebels? Check. Bad guys in clumsy armor? Check. Cute robot? Check.

Of course, every SF show during that period had a cute robot. Talk about strange fads.

Anyway, since you hated BG so thoroughly, you probably won't want to follow this link

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http://www.battlestargalactica.com/about/bg2/

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

LIVINGIMPAIRED

Monday, October 7, 2002 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
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Originally posted by Ringwraith:

Battlestar Gallactica: this Star Wars wannabe is beyond horrendous, especially when they had the season that basically took place on Earth in the 1970s. Purely awful stuff.

Yeah, I could just see them watching Star Wars, and putting together the TV vesion. Evil empire? Check. Plucky rebels? Check. Bad guys in clumsy armor? Check. Cute robot? Check.

Of course, every SF show during that period had a cute robot. Talk about strange fads.

Anyway, since you hated BG so thoroughly, you probably won't want to follow this link :

http://www.battlestargalactica.com/about/bg2/

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

Actually, George Lucas unsuccessfully sued the createtors of Battlestar for copyright infringment.

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"You still don't get it. It's not about right. It's not about wrong... It's about Power." —Morph-O-Monster, "Lessons"

HJERMSTED

Monday, October 7, 2002 6:28 PM

Hey! I loved the last five years of Star Trek: DS9. I think that show is WAY underappreciated. Once Sisko was promoted to Captain and the big story arcs kicked in I thought DS9 came in second only to ST:TNG.

FYI: Mutant X IS Marvel. It's not technically a comic book adaptation, but we know what Marvel does for a living, right? Comic book writer Howard Chaykin is a main writer on that show. I watched Mutant X for awhile but I'd much rather see an actual X-Men weekly show and not a pale imitation.

Re: Lucas...
Perhaps Lucas should sue himself for copyright infringement for those last two Star Wars installments.

mattro

MILLERNATE

Tuesday, October 8, 2002 2:41 AM

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Harsh Realm: you know why this show was cancelled after three episodes? Not because of lack of marketing on Fox's part, but because the show sucked. Does everything Carter touch turn to garbage?

Complete argreement here, though Millenium was at least sporadically interesting.

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Dark Skies: a blatant X-Files rip-off which aired while the X-Files was still decent and popular. Poorly written and acted.

Now see, I thought this shows "timeline" concept was at least interesting. The writing was alright on occassion as well (when the writers didn't fall in love with the fact that they had the opportunity to shoe horn in historical figures into the narrative that is) though I don't recall being impressed with the actors. All in all a lot better than Profiler (a show that accompanied Dark Skies that got better promotion and network support) and at least as good as The Pretender (with Skies and Profiler the third part of the "Saturday Night Thrillogy" for, I believe, NBC).

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Star Trek: Voyager: this show had potential but instead flushed it down the toilet. Technobabble was what this series was all about, plus it had some of the most obnoxious, annoying characters in Trek history.

Though Robert Picardo as the holodoc tried his best to make this intersting.

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Mutant X: I don't know if it's sci-fi or not but either way Marvel should have sued these guys into oblivion.

Now see I didn't find this all that bad. I didn't love it, but I can see how it has gotten good word of mouth (and it is better than Andromeda, the only other syndicated sci-fi that was on last year).

As for bad sci-fi shows, allow me to nominate:

Seaquest DSV - It was by turns either bland (the beginning of its first season and the short-run third season) or stupid (most of season 1 and all of season 2). Which made it all the more surprising when you realize who was behind it: Rockne S. O'Bannon (the future creator of Farscape), Tommy Thompson (who was a supervising producer for Quantum Leap), Lawrence Herzog (the future creator of Nowhere Man), Steven Spielberg (well this should be obvious). All that talent and this was what we got? ugh. Also: Overly cute talking dophin. Double ugh.

Nathan
"It looks like a great adventure...That's what it is; that's what it feels like. When I saw the pilot, it was really engaging. It was exciting. It was unusual. It threw me off every now and then. I think people will be grabbed by it." - Ron Glass, on the pilot, during an interview with the Indianapolis Star

JERRY

Tuesday, October 8, 2002 3:56 AM

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Originally posted by millernate:
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Harsh Realm: you know why this show was cancelled after three episodes? Not because of lack of marketing on Fox's part, but because the show sucked. Does everything Carter touch turn to garbage?

Complete argreement here, though Millenium was at least sporadically interesting.

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I also found Harsh Realm thoroughly worthy of cancellation. Millennium I really loved through it's first two seasons (especially the second). After it was unexpectedly renewed for a third season, it became an almost unwatchable would-be XF clone, though.

ASTRO599

Tuesday, October 8, 2002 5:27 AM

Bring Back Dark Angel! I can't say cancel Firefly, because I'm boycotting FOX and I don't watch it, but no show is worth the cancellation of Dark Angel!

HAPLO721

Tuesday, October 8, 2002 8:24 AM

And if Fox's reason for dropping Dark Angel had been that they were picking up Firefly, you might have a point. As it is, I must say "Go away, troll."

ZICSOFT

Tuesday, October 8, 2002 4:29 PM

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Originally posted by Haplo721:
And if Fox's reason for dropping Dark Angel had been that they were picking up Firefly, you might have a point. As it is, I must say "Go away, troll."

Not necessarily true. If Firefly hadn't been available to fill the slot, they might have tried to keep Dark Angel alive just a little longer. Have to have something in the time slot.

Not sure Dark Angel fans would have been pleased with the results, though. When they're struggling to keep a show alive, the results are often pretty pathetic.

JOSS, WHERE'S MY CHECK???!!!

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