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NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Thursday, July 5, 2007 7:37 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Patriot Chrisisall

Better watch out, Chris. Posting something like this could get you arrested for treason, blasphemy, obscenity, AND desecrating the flag.

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SERGEANTX

Thursday, July 5, 2007 7:54 PM

* nevermind *
(deleted for the pointless of answering rovist demagoguery)

CHRISISALL

Thursday, July 5, 2007 8:02 PM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:

You know, I like to keep things civil

Sarge, just admit that this is a GREAT flag...

...let visions of Neo-Con scum objecting to this wash over you like soapsuds....

My America is a SEXY America

Chrisisall

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Thursday, July 5, 2007 8:21 PM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
* nevermind *
(deleted for the pointless of answering rovist demagoguery)

Or the way it made you look like a fruitcake. Undeservingly, I’m sure. Let’s just all try to agree that this is a great flag:

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

SERGEANTX

Thursday, July 5, 2007 8:57 PM

You know Finn. I get real touchy about people telling me I hate America. So just don't do it, m'kay?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, July 5, 2007 9:06 PM

What I am *sayin* is that we threw a revolt for LESS than this, and in fact to defy this very treatment that is downright *celebrated* these days and that right does piss me off.

Politically, in the end we HAVE accomplished nothing - because at the end of the day our leadership indulges in far worse excesses, abuses and usurpations than King George would have ever *dreamed* of committing, while hordes of kool-aid drinking dittoheads cheer it right on, since it's not directed at THEM (yet), just folks THEY dislike.

Since when did it become extremism to want our Gov to follow it's own goddamned rules ?
Anarchist I may be, but time and time again I've stated that I would SETTLE for a halt to the endless abuses and usurpations, which is one reason I favor Ron Paul.

Beyond that, calling ME ignorant of our Governments foundations, history, and the abuses thereof is about as facetious a comment as humanly possible around here given previous threads discussing the matter, if anything it is those defending said abuses that would be ignorant of the Constitution and what it means, but it's "just a goddamn piece of paper" to you, right ?

It's far more than that to me, it's the very bedrock upon which our freedoms rest, which has been saturated, weakened, and is rotting from the unchecked corruption of power in all high offices top to bottom, regardless of party - and your attempts to make it a fuckin partisan issue show where you really stand, when it comes right down to it, it's ok when YOUR guys do it, but not the other guys, uh huh - go look up Hoyles Law, fool.

Just as the rethugs scare me with this corpo-fascist sig-heil shit, so too do the dimocrats with their "for your own good" nannyism, my life is MY business, innit ? but neither friggin one of em wants to leave it at that, and thus, a pox on both their houses, I say.

Damn right I'm angry, I want my fuckin country back - not this whitewash on a corpo-fascist imperial empire.

Let's talk about those "Freedoms" you SAY we have.

Start with say... the idea of simply walking down to the nearest hardware store and buying a pistol for self-defense, can you do it ? or do you have to practically BEG the states permission ?

Marriage, which is none of the Gov's biz being a religious contract... gotta go beg permission, yes ?

I wanna build a shed on my property, oh, wait.. can't do that... need a permit...

I decide the Gov has done a piss poor job and failed to faithfully execute their duty, and on april 15th I decide to tell em to go to hell - I can do that right ?
(Sarcasm)

I decide I wanna go fishing or hunting on my buddys property, it's all ok, right ? oh wait...

I decide I wanna smoke a phattie on my front porch, no one's gonna bother me about it, right ? oh wait...

The list goes on and on and on, and not one damned bit of it even the Gov's BUSINESS, much less in any way shape or form under it's control nor should it be - they've simply taken, and taken, and usurped, and taken, with damn fools cheering them on all the while.

For heavens sake these days you have to even BEG PERMISSION to PROTEST ? what kind of counter-intuitive IDIOCY is that ? and IF the powers that be even bother to ALLOW you, it'll be in a euphamistically named "Free Speech Zone" a mile away somewhere in the basement of a damned parking garage, whoopie, we're so free...

And all those firecrackers yer so damn happy to be setting off ? uh huh - and what's gonna happen should you get *caught* with them, most of em, eh ?

Oh the irony of our primary form of 'celebrating' our so-called 'freedom' being illegal.

Patriotism doesn't blind me, it outrages me, should I be HAPPY that the gov pisses all over the very foundations of our entire country, our entire philosophy ?

Should I be happy that we are a de-facto corporate oligarchy instead of a constitutional republic, no matter what it says on paper ?

Fuck that, you wanna define hatin america, you go right to the folks shredding constitutional rights and the kool-aid drinking pissants helpin em do it while chee

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Thursday, July 5, 2007 9:17 PM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
You know Finn. I get real touchy about people telling me I hate America. So just don't do it, m'kay?

Except that I never said such a thing.

HKCAVALIER

Thursday, July 5, 2007 9:45 PM

(ETA: whoopsie! Half these posts weren't here when I started this reply. Good to see Frem's return to the thread. Carry on, sir.)

Finn, here you skip over Frem's lengthy itemized list of comparisons between our current government's policies and those of King George the First of England (which, btw, our founding fathers just happened to go to war to end) and instead attack his most emotionally charged--and therefore most vulnerable--statement.

Of course, you say it would take a "mind reader" to understand Frem's point, because from where you sit, open-mindedness itself must look like a psychic power.

Plenty of intelligent folks here understood Frem's point perfectly without having to read his mind or even agree 100% (witness AURaptor's "mindreading" at the top of the thread). And btw, the "NOTHING" that Frem said we accomplished was the "nothing" of difference between Bush's policies and those of George the First listed in his post. I believe his contention was that we went to war against England for a greater purpose than simply changing ownership of the monarchy.

Why don't you refute his points instead of attacking his emotionalism as if that were his point?

And finally, none of what Frem wrote in his post claimed that America is "evil," nor that Bush is a "dictator"--George the First was not a dictator, he was king presiding over a constitutional monarchy.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

SERGEANTX

Thursday, July 5, 2007 9:48 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Except that I never said such a thing.

Of course you didn't. Plausible deniability etc, etc,... And Bush never said that Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11. Whatever. I'm not going to play the sophistry game with you. But the next time someone tries to squelch dissent with accusations "America Hater" the only reply I'm likely to give is a curt 'fuck you'. It's all that kind of nonsense deserves.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

PIRATENEWS

Thursday, July 5, 2007 9:56 PM

USA now annexed by NWO in SPPNA, officially merged with Canada and Mexico, with millions of manufacturing and farming jobs exported to Communist China, official owner of Fox News via Wendi Deng, the Communist Chinese wife of Sir Rupert Murdoch Australian Knight of the British Empire.

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Wendi Murdoch (née Deng) (simplified Chinese: 邓文迪; pinyin: Dèng Wéndí, originally 邓文革; pinyin: Dèng Wéngé) (born 1968) is a Chinese born American businesswoman, and wife of News Corporation Chairman and CEO Rupert Murdoch.

Deng was born in Shandong, China, and raised in Xuzhou, the neighbouring province of Jiangsu.[1] She attended the local Xuzhou No. 1 Middle School. During high school, Deng's father relocated to Guangzhou to work at the People's Machinery Works, whilst Deng remained behind for a short while. Afterwards Deng joined her father in Guangzhou, and began medical studies. In 1987, at the age of 18, she met Jake Cherry (who is 30 years older than Deng), an American working for Guangzhou Engineering Factory, and his wife (Joyce Cherry), who started teaching Deng English. In 1988 Mr. and Mrs. Cherry sponsored a student visa for Deng and she moved to America to live with the Cherrys and to study at California State University.

In 2000, the Wall Street Journal published an article in which claims were made about Deng's personal history. The authors claimed that, in 1990, Jake Cherry left his wife to marry Deng after his wife found photos her husband had taken of Deng in a Guangzhou hotel room. Four months through their marriage, the article said, Jake Cherry asked Deng to leave when he found out she had been seeing another man. Similar reports about Deng's personal history have been published by The Daily Telegraph, ABC News, New York Magazine, The Monthly, and numerous other respectable sources in the media.

She divorced Cherry after two years of marriage.

She married Rupert Murdoch on June 25, 1999.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendi_Deng

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