We're celebrating what, again ?
POSTED BY: Fremdfirma
UPDATED: Thursday, January 9, 2025 00:43
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
...what the fuck is the problem dude? What..lost a job? A girlfriend or wife? Your wallet? Had your identity stolen?...Lost your Ipod files?
No, actually, it's our nation we've lost. To neo-con shitheads who're raping her daily before our eyes. It's our very love for our country and the freedom she represents that prompt the cries for justice. You gotta problem with that? I guess you do.
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Why don't you form your own country somewhere...
That's plan 'b'. Plan 'a' is to save this one from from the forces attempting to ruin it (and the asshats supporting them - that's you!)
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Go back to your mindless sitcoms and let the adults talk for a while prole.
Ok...and let's look at your very ADULT words.....
"Repuglican loyalist dillusions"
"pissed over our Constitution"
" F Bush "
"8 more years of this shit"
and my personal favorite.." Repuglicans caused the death of liberty and justice"
Now, anyone can clearly see how adult your statements are, and I have given myself a strong talkin' to....to be more adult, to be more like 6string....thanks!
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Originally posted by BionicBatman:
Jong, thank you.
Why do people who think America sucks still living here? Get the F out of this country then!
There wasnt a war over this for nothing!
Oh please, I consider it a pleasure just trying to help a fellow Browncoat get through his misery, hatred & un-happiness.
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Frem, thanks for posting this.
Your love for our country is obvious, as is you hatred of corporate controled/friendly government.
I salute ya Chrisisall
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"What? You're free!...free to pontificate and spew at your leisure in air-conditioned luxury ...certainly not being forced to strap dynamite sticks to your chest, and certainly not getting whipped to death 'cause your beard is too fucking short, and certainly not seeing your sister raped and stoned to death 'cause she blinked at some guy...right? Well that's the other side pal, I bleed not a drop, and sweat not a bead for them. Why don't you form your own country somewhere.."
If this is a statement that defines our freedoms...We are in bigger trouble than I thought. How about an illegal income tax, turning a cheek at a subpoena, a fairness doctrine, monopoly money from the private entity known as the Federal reserve bank, Patriot Act...etc. So, let us not use the "We are not as bad as a Muslim state" argument to defend the "we are still free" position....It is as laughable as shit pancakes..........Well, it's true.......
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Quote:Er, I think the context is in the comparing of government in the past to government now...in the past when government wanted to do something illegal/unconstitutional or whatever, it was done behind closed doors. Neo-Cons have made it a policy to do as they will in front of us, pushing the visible envelope of power that much further. These CAN BE the first steps toward fascism, and we must be aware. It also might all go away with following administrations. I believe the pendulum will swing back to the center, after going all wacky for so long. At least I HOPE that's what it's gonna do.....
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Part of what we are celebrating is that people like you can throw these completely ignorant fits because you live in a country that is so free, stable and wealthy and has been so for so long that you have absolutely no context upon which to compare and therefore appreciate the value of what you have.
Quote:One need not be grateful that one's country holds to it's Constitution, and conversely need not be ashamed of calling 'foul' when it doesn't.
The truth is that you are so spoiled on the freedom and wealth this country has that you have no clue how ungrateful you are.
I'm grateful to the powers that be for being born a citizen of this land, but I DEMAND my government operate according to the established rules set down long ago.
Plus: I'd like it to play nice, as well. But that's more a desire than a demand.....
Patriot Chrisisall
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Quote:Kaneman, my man!!!
Originally posted by kaneman:
If this is a statement that defines our freedoms...We are in bigger trouble than I thought. How about an illegal income tax, turning a cheek at a subpoena, a fairness doctrine, monopoly money from the private entity known as the Federal reserve bank, Patriot Act...etc. So, let us not use the "We are not as bad as a Muslim state" argument to defend the "we are still free" position....It is as laughable as shit pancakes..........Well, it's true.......
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Quote:Frem is not comparing anything. Frem is an extremist. And painting the American system as totalitarian and acting as if he or other Americans have nothing worth being grateful for can only be a consequences of ungrateful ignorance. You can disagree with the system or disapprove of certain political bodies or polices, but to suggest that we as Americans have nothing worth celebrating is nothing short of asinine. And it illustrates the complacency that has come to dominate many people’s political views in America. Many Americans have no context upon which to compare the transgressions they see or believe they see in America. They are so spoiled with immense freedom and wealth they can’t even imagine what real totalitarianism and real poverty is.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Er, I think the context is in the comparing of government in the past to government now...in the past when government wanted to do something illegal/unconstitutional or whatever, it was done behind closed doors. Neo-Cons have made it a policy to do as they will in front of us, pushing the visible envelope of power that much further. These CAN BE the first steps toward fascism, and we must be aware. It also might all go away with following administrations. I believe the pendulum will swing back to the center, after going all wacky for so long. At least I HOPE that's what it's gonna do.....
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:Extremely pissed, yeah. But I don't see that he's pissing on the US system, more that he ranting about it being subverted...
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Frem is unleashing a fanatical political hatred of the US system as a whole. Frem is an extremist.
Quote:It can be, for some unlucky ones...
And painting the American system as totalitarian
Quote:I agree with that, there is much to celebrate and to be glad of.
You can disagree with the system or disapprove of certain political bodies or polices, but to suggest that we as Americans have nothing worth celebrating is nothing short of asinine.
Quote:I wouldn't use the word 'complacent' to describe Frem...
And it illustrates the complacency that has come to dominate many people’s political views in America.
Quote:If they're youngish, I guess you're correct...
Many Americans have no context upon which to compare the transgressions they see or believe they see in America.
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They are so spoiled with immense freedom and wealth they can’t even imagine what real totalitarianism and real poverty is.
This may be true for many, but I think many here at RWED have no problem imagining it. Personally, I've seen some severely poor folk near the Hatian side of the Dominican Republic. Made poverty in the US look enviable
.Chrisisall
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Originally posted by kaneman:
If this is a statement that defines our freedoms...We are in bigger trouble than I thought. How about an illegal income tax, turning a cheek at a subpoena, a fairness doctrine, monopoly money from the private entity known as the Federal reserve bank, Patriot Act...etc. So, let us not use the "We are not as bad as a Muslim state" argument to defend the "we are still free" position....It is as laughable as shit pancakes..........Well, it's true.......
And let me be the first to state that I hate Demoncrats more than anyone on this board (and to use a phrase that Josswhachmacallit will love, I F-ing hate them and I challenge anyone to say they F-ing hate Demoncrats more than anyone else on this board) At the same time I think one would be a fool not to admit that Bush and Cheney are F-ing monsters and need to go. And I don't want to see an Obama or a Clinton in next time. I told you..... I F-ing hate Demoncrats.
A vote for Ron Paul, is a vote for LIBERTY!
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Chrisisall: If they're youngish, I guess you're correct...
Great post otherwise my man, and I really appreciate it, but I don't belive this part to be true. I figured a lot out on my own from reading books and seeing the world with my own eyes for once after I left home at 19 and things were a lot different. I think a lot of parents would love to teach their kids a lot of things they're afraid to because it might come back to them when they go to school and show their friends.
I mean, come on..... a screwdriver is considered a fracking weapon in school for cryin' out loud....
No wonder it's cheaper to ship most shit around the globe than to have it made here today. Our kids are being taught to be the "retards" of the world, for lack of a better term.....
But won't the mother's be proud when their kids participated in their touch football tournament where there was no score and no winners and losers so everybody feels good?
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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