And one shall surely DIE!!!

POSTED BY: Duke
UPDATED: Saturday, March 27, 2004 00:59
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CHANNAIN

Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:10 PM

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Originally posted by Steve580:
1) Nah, you guys are wrong.

2) No way they could wrap up Book's story so quickly.

3) He won't.

1) Since the movie hasn't even been filmed yet. Nobody's really wrong - nobody's really right yet either, that's why it's all theoretical.

2) Entirely too true - Book has the most intricate story of anyone on board.

3) Dude, he's Joss Whedon. Of course he would - if he wanted to and if it was in keeping with the story. Proof is in the death count: Doyle (okay, other reasons for that one, but still), Terra, Anya, Cordy...even Lyla. Man's like the weather in Minnesota (and Virginia) only more intentional - wait 5 minutes and he's bound to change something. And yet I keep watching his stuff... that seem right to you?

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HKCAVALIER

Thursday, March 25, 2004 8:33 PM

My main objection to these theories is that they all sound kinda clichéd and aside from Nandi's very narratively convenient demise in HoG, Joss & Co. have steered clear of genre dreck. Nobody's gonna die just as they profess their love to anybody, please! And self sacrifice is all well and good, but this show is about survival, about just getting by, "still flying."

That being said, there does seem to be a small, small chance that River will die, because while she lives there is always the threat of the show becoming "the story of a girl with super-powers." What I think will happen though is that River will very much seem to die, we'll all be convinced and then Joss will pull off some ingenious resurrection/reappearance.

Also I think that Serenity and her crew will have enough very powerful enemies by the end of the movie (and the revelation of River's full powers) that they'll need all the help they can get, even from a "girl with super-powers." It would be so cool if somebody could finally, finally make the "psychic crew member" thing work.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

ARDEN

Thursday, March 25, 2004 9:31 PM

I'd just like to say hello to you all, as this is my first post on the site and I'm glad to be commiserating with fellow like-minded fans of excellent television.

That being said, I'll now make my opinion regarding character death. While I think it would be shocking and dramatically powerful for a main character to die in the film, I only really see that occuring if the actor playing the role has no interest in continuing to do so. I think it's widely accepted that one of the goals of the film is to re-start Firefly in one way or another. Even if the television series does not return, I seriously doubt that Universal would have no interest in film sequels if the film is even a marginal success, particularly considering that the financial risk of this film is considerably less than your average science fiction picture. It has no expensive acting talent (at least in the principle cast, and I think we can assume that there probably won't be any mega-stars in supporting roles), and the production team should also be fairly inexpensive. Although Joss Whedon is certainly talented, I somehow doubt he could command huge sums as either a writer or director at this point in his career. He's no Speilberg yet as far as clout (though I would wager to say an equal in talent and vision), not even a David Fincher or other sucessful and very creative director of a similar ilk. "Mid-eight figures," as I remember the budget quote to be, is quite low for a fantasy film. These types of pictures commonly go for upwards of $100 million in our day of over-inflated movie spending. (Okay, off my soapbox now)

Ultimately, aside from an actor establishing that he or she did not want to continue in a role, I can't imagine why any given character would be taken out of the story this early on, if they truly are planning to continue in some way. And as I said, even if the TV series does not return, I can't imagine that Universal would give up the chance to create a film series out of this, especially seeing the renewed interest in sci-fi/fantasy and the vacancies left in the genre without future Star Wars (after next year), Star Trek, or Matrix films any time soon.

So there you go. It all comes down to money.

And that they are just too pretty to die.

QINGAI

Thursday, March 25, 2004 9:58 PM

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Originally posted by Arden:

And that they are just too pretty to die.

Amen to that!

I guess we're all just so use to death in the Jossverse that it has to be considered that we may lose one of our beloved crew in the movie. It would seriously break my heart. And unless it's a death where you don't see the body (e.g., Alias), there's no magic to resurrect anyone who dies. Well, I'm just gonna be all Kaylee-like and tell myself that no one will die and the movie will be such a success that Firefly the series will be reborn!

RKLENSETH

Thursday, March 25, 2004 10:04 PM

I think Joss Whedon would do the film for free if he could. Perhaps even many of the actors such as Adam and Nathan if they could. They love it just as much as we do.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

SBWATCHER

Thursday, March 25, 2004 10:10 PM

Wasn't it the bunnies?

or maybe midgets?

"What's sanguine mean again?"

KARENKAY99

Friday, March 26, 2004 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by Duke:

Book: revealed to be ex-Alliance, Mal's counterpart at Vally of Serenity who subsequently got religeon. Sacrifices self to save man he tried to kill in the war. This helps to restore some of Mal's faith.

i've said it before. book worries me. i think his mystery is tied to river. if he is a bad guy then i hope his last act in the 'verse turns that all around and he does right by the good guys. i don't put it past joss to create a character we love and do him in. that's real life. remember doyle, buffy's mom, anya.

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."

PYROPHORUS

Friday, March 26, 2004 12:57 AM

You people are forgetting the possible death of the most important character.

I don't see any individual dying, every main cast character is an essential part of the overall storyline, none of them have been developed to any point where they can yet be destroyed.

Serenity however is expendable, it is not a living thing, but the crew holds an emotional atatchement to her. We have not seen Serenity in any external conflict as of yet, it could be her undoing.

KARENKAY99

Friday, March 26, 2004 1:32 AM

Serenity can't die. Too pretty. besides that the name of the BDM.

"They say the snow on the roof is too heavy. They say the ceiling will cave in. His brains are in terrible danger."

STATIC

Friday, March 26, 2004 2:06 AM

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Originally posted by SBWatcher:

Wasn't it the bunnies?

or maybe midgets?

NO NO NO NO NO.

It was MONKEYS! Some terrifying space monkeys!

I can't believe you guys didn't KNOW that.

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