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UPDATED: Thursday, June 28, 2007 23:36
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Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:36 PM

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Originally posted by Zeek:
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Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
Oh fine, make me explain while avoiding specifics...


But we wants the specificses.

Eh, I've said as much as I can. It's a fine line to walk, but I signed the NDA and I value my job. And it isn't so much the specific things that the PhDs want us to do, it's their constant, constant harping on the issue that gets to me -- along with this new escalation of inserting themselves into our work by making themselves the de facto lobbying group for my profession, despite the fact that none of them have worked a day in this industry. But I finally managed to put together a post that was both civil and sharp, and just sent that out, so maybe that will move this thing somehow. And if not, I'm starting to organize a lobby group made up of real professionals, which would make these guys look like the bloated jokes they are. So there's still hope.

*Hugs*, Mav. I am quite confident that everything will work out for you. HK had a good meeting with the boss, I just put the smack down on teh n00bs, and I'm betting that you'll find the perfect Goldilocks job -- not too much, not too little. If not either of these two jobs, then the next one will be just right. I'll be thinking good thoughts in your direction all day. *Hugs*

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:40 PM

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Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
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Originally posted by Zeek:
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Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
Oh fine, make me explain while avoiding specifics...

I signed the NDA


NDA & lobbying? I thought lobbying was a very public activity. Or is this non-governmental lobbying of some kind?

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Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:40 PM

Reposted from the bar:

Well, I went in there Zen, and came out discombobulated and realized I wasted a morning.

I Metro downtown in this blazing heat, walk a few blocks to the building and everything is good. I am a few minutes early when I arrive at the reception desk. They ask me to fill out some forms, which I do. Yada, yada - I sit down with the interviewer. (Picture in your head a 50-60 y.o. woman, very thin, straight gray hair cut in a pageboy, with her glasses pushed up as a headband.)

I have now been there about 6 minutes.

She shuffles the papers around, looks at my resume very briefly, and asks me what I made at my last job. She asks me if I have a car (Illegal question, b*tch!). She asks me one or two other things, then as she shuffles papers asks where my test scores are. (Now, I had been under the impression the woman who contacted me was going to forward to my email some sort of test on MS Office / Powerpoint/Excel. It never appeared, only a confirmation email for my interview, so I assumed it would be administered at the interview.) The woman throws up her hands and proceeds to yell at a woman "Beth" in the room for about 30 seconds. Then she turns to me and says "Thanks for coming. I can't determine if you are suitable without those scores." and she gets up and leaves. And then to drive the knife home, as she walks out of the room she said "Pretty hair, though."

I've been there maybe 7 minutes. Interview is over.

Beth comes over and apologizes for me not receiving the email from her, and for the woman (I never did get her name) - She promises to send me the email (which is now in my email box) and asks me to call her this afternoon both when I get home, and when I've completed the testing.

I had been so worried about this interview, and I am a more competent office professional than those two combined. Figures.

I haven't decided whether I'm going to take the test or not.



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Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:46 PM

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Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
- along with this new escalation of inserting themselves into our work by making themselves the de facto lobbying group for my profession, despite the fact that none of them have worked a day in this industry.

You hit the nail on the head with PhDs - generally only important to themselves, they are. I really enjoyed your post.

That, and you know Python. You're making me fall in love with you.



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Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:48 PM

*The HK solution*

Take the test.
Take the interview.
Get offered the job.
Tell 'em to f**k off.

^^

*Warning: most people shouldn't follow the HK solution*

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Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:50 PM

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
*The HK solution*

Take the test.
Take the interview.
Get offered the job.
Tell 'em to f**k off.

^^

*Warning: most people shouldn't follow the HK solution*

You've got all of the job bitterness of someone twice your age.

Well done!



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Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:53 PM

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Originally posted by Zeek:
NDA & lobbying? I thought lobbying was a very public activity. Or is this non-governmental lobbying of some kind?

Man Zeek, you're making me do some seriously creative editing here, lol.

My work is all under NDA. I've done both government and private sector work, but I can't say more than that. Almost all work done by people with my job description is private sector. We don't have a lobbying group as yet, because we don't really need one. We have a loose professional association that speaks up if a politician tries to pass a law that would hurt our industry, but that's about it. But these academics, after being told that no, we won't let them view our work that is under NDA, and no, they can't jump to the top of the food chain by virtue of their PhDs, are now saying that they will put together a platform of the industry's needs and take those to politicians, on our behalf. Not only do they have no right to do that, their idea of "the industry's needs" are beyond laughable. So if they actually send out that platform, I'll have to do something to counter-act it.

Gah, sorry to be so vague, but it's necessary. We could just drop it now. I was pissed, I vented, and now I've put the smack down on the academics. Let's just forgot I brought it up.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:56 PM

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Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
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Originally posted by Zeek:
NDA & lobbying? I thought lobbying was a very public activity. Or is this non-governmental lobbying of some kind?

We could just drop it now.


Fine but only cause you're fast like a freak and edited "Seek" already.

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Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:03 PM

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Originally posted by Zeek:
Fine but only cause you're fast like a freak and edited "Seek" already.

Omg, lol! Yeah, my spell checker hates me. If I had a preview option on here, that never woulda made it out!

~CK

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Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:03 PM

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Originally posted by FlyVote:
You've got all of the job bitterness of someone twice your age.

Well done!

Medical device design. ^^

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