And one shall surely DIE!!!
POSTED BY: Duke
UPDATED: Saturday, March 27, 2004 00:59
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On Star Trek, we all know the the bridge crew is safe. They are immune. They are invulnerable. They canot be killed under any circumstances, becasue they have contracts, and they have lawyers.
That's why they have the "red shirts." They are the ones who do whatever dieing needs to be done. And this creates an illusion of danger and suspence.
But Firefly/Serenity is a different animal. I know for a fact that when Mal had Jayne secured in the airlock, every single one of you thought 'ol Jayne was going to kiss the sky pillow.
So I am certain that Joss will want to make clear that his 'verse is defferent from the other sci-fi universes fandom has come to know. His is a real world that is down, dirty, and dangerous.
I predict that one of the crew is going to die.
I further predict that there will be at least two red herrings in the movie. New crew members that will serve to make the fans think that they are the targets. One will be the usual Joss bumbler character who turns out to be the threat. Except the real threat will turn out to be one of our nine. The bumbler will in fact be nothing but a bumbler after all. The other will be the one we all assume to be the red shirt. "Oh, new crew member we have never seen before, he's the one to die." However, he/she will live and one of the nine will die instead.
My predictions, listed from least likely to most likely:
Zoe: Mal loses the last of his army buddies
Wash: Zoe sacrifices him to obay an order from Mal, the shock being that we have seen her choose Wash over Mal's orders before, so we will not be expecting it.
Simon: sacrifices salf to save sister. Crew adopts her.
River: Simon fails to save her, allience finally gets her. Simon is still a fugitive. Joins crew to fulfil his destiny as the greatest criminal mastermind of the 'verse.
Kaylee: simple shock value
Jayne: a soldier's death, goes out saving Simon & River.
Book: revealed to be ex-Alliance, Mal's counterpart at Vally of Serenity who subsequently got religeon. Sacrifices self to save man he tried to kill in the war. This helps to restore some of Mal's faith.
Inara: Succumbs to whatever space-aids disease drove her from her house and causes her to need illicit drugs. Dies just as Mal confesses his love for her, just at the moment when he is getting some of his faith back. Her death further drives Mal from his faith, causing Book to keep his secret a secret but remain on the crew to try and eventually sheperd Mal back to the flock.
"I'll be in my bunk..."
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You're certainly keeping your options wide open, aren't you?
Of those scenarios, I think the most likely one would be Inara, not that I subscribe to your overall theory that one of the nine will die though. But it would have a tremendous effect on the audience if one of them did.
It better not be Book, not unless we get his full backstory first!
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I have a theory...it must be demons (sorry wrong joss show)
Considering the entire movie seems to be based upon River why wouldnt it be her who dies? it makes sense , she is at the centre of it all. River sacrafices herself to save serenity and her crew meanwhile showing everyone what sort of real power she does hold. just a thought.
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If they did kill one off, I think we could eliminate Mal. It's his ship, and let's face it, he is a draw for a good deal of the female fans.
Zoe? I am thinking not. Zoe is the strong right hand of our captain, and the wife of the pilot. If something happened to her, I think Wash would leave the ship out of grief.
Jayne? Could be, but he is a draw for a lot of female fans, and he is hi-larious. His antics and one liners keep me in stitches.
Simon? Why not? Sure some of the ladies like him, but he is not pivotal to the story other than his care of River. He could die defending River or finding the answers to what was done to her.
River? Could be. We may find out just what her potential is, only to have her go out in a blaze of glory, saving the ship & crew. The show could continue without her, though it would not be as creepifying and morbid if she were gone.
Kaylee? I think not. She is the chipper one. The one that keeps Serenity running. Without her where would we be?
Inara? Possible. Her death could cause all kinds of heartache & unrequitted love issues for Cappy.
Book? I would hope not. Book is the moral compass of our band of big damn heroes. If they were to kill him, I hope it is a long time coming, and only after we find out who he really is or was.
Wash? I don't think so. He is one gorram fine pilot, not to mention husband to the warrior woman. If he died, Zoe might go all vengeful on us and hunt down them as did it. Of course if she survived, she would come back to the ship, but what to do about a pilot?
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
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Quote:
Originally posted by athertonwing:
I have a theory...it must be demons (sorry wrong joss show)
Wasn't it the bunnies?
When I was listening to the commentary on the DVD's, one of them - can't remember who - said that what he hoped was that if the movie was a go, that it'd be successful enough that someone would say, "You should make a TV series out of that." So, I don't really think that I'd be wise to kill any off. Perhaps really hurt one for dramatic effect, but, no death.
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Personally, I really don't want anyone on the crew to die...
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Zoe: I'm thinking not...but it would create conflict with Wash and Mal because somehow Mal would be responsible for it. Could even lead to fisticuffs.
Wash: No freaking way Zoe's sacrificing him for anything. I could see him dying accidentally, caught in crossfire or somesuch trying to save her - after they had a knock-down drag-out spousal spat of course - and thus leaving her consumed by guilt and grief.
Simon: Possibly, but not so much to save his sister as to save Kaylee and prove once and for all his affection for her. Why is it all the noble ones think they have to die for the girl anyways? Living is so much more fun!
River: Possibly. I read a fanfic somewhere once where she sacrificed herself to save Simon from a freak accident and he ended up living with the guilt.
Kaylee: Nope - she's the Willow/Xander of this space opera of ours. Head and heart combined. She dies and the whole thing falls apart.
Jayne: a fighter's death, goes out saving somebody on the crew - possibly Mal. They haven't entirely mended the fence you know.
Book: Still not convinced he's ex-Alliance - that's entirely too simple and WAY too predictable. Could be ex-Independent who struck a deal. The Independent Council official who ordered forces to pull out at Serenity Valley and left the Independent remnants to fend for themselves. Didn't get religion because he had it already - he set it aside for a time in order to serve the Independent Council in the plight of freedom (my own theory, mind). Been out of the world because part of the deal was that he spend a few years under lock and key - supposedly at an abbey, but who's to say it wasn't minimum security lock-up? I do agree that he would sacrifice himself to save Mal - a good soldier who nearly died after the war was over. Can't say whether or not that alone would restore Mal's faith, but it might give Book some redemption.
Inara: This one seems more feasible, especially the Dies just as Mal confesses his love for her part because it would leave Mal in further misery.
Mal won't be shepherded anywhere - that would mean doing what God wants him to do, and he's not doing that for no body, no way no how. He's still way too pissed off for that. Finding out proof that it wasn't God who caused the fall of the Independent movement, but men (or man, whichever side Book was on) would get him started though. Suffice it to say, faith restoration doesn't happen quickandeasy - it takes time and it's something that happens when you least expect it. I could see that as Mal's own personal arc once the series is started again (note my optimism).
Now how come Mal wasn't on Duke's list? I could definitely see a near-death-experience thing happen with him, leading him toward faith restoration. He's still going to resist like gangbusters, of course, but at least he'll start to wonder and that will get him onto the path.
And everything said about the menfolk being a draw for the ladies is absolutely true. Book falls into that category too, by the way. Aside from the fact that the man walks like a king, he's got the "un-obtainable" aspect, very "Spock-like". I'm not speaking personally, I'm just saying...
We have art so as not to die of truth ~ Neitzsche
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Nah, you uys are wrong: Simon is safe. He's the guy the audiance can relate to the most, in a lot of ways; he came onboard at the same time the viewers did. His relationship with River and with Kaylee are very important to the plot. PLus, the service he provides to the crew is unreplacable. Not to mention that much of the show - and, from what I've heard, the majority of the movie - focuses on his fugitive status, and that of his sister. And no way she'd stay on, without him. I can see things happening the other way around, though; but I doubt it. No, if anyone dies, I can tell you who it won't be: Mal, Simon, Kaylee, Zoe, or Book. No way they could wrap up Book's story so quickly.
I see Wash as dispensible. I mean, it would suck; but he's not the only one who can fly the ship. But Simon? No. If Simon dies, I'll only watch the movie like six times. And then only buy one copy.
He won't.
-Steve
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I agree, Simon won't be killed. These people really need a doctor, and they don't make enough money to hire one.
I actually don't think anyone will die. I wouldn't be surprised to see River caught at the end, and them leaving it open for a rescue.
The Joss universe might be a harsh one, but these people stick together, and would rescue the teammember in danger.
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