Religion...Bitch slapped...
POSTED BY: kaneman
UPDATED: Saturday, March 28, 2026 18:57
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I'd just like to point out two factual inaccuracies in the video:
1) Jesus wasn't born on December 25th. As a matter of fact, Christian religious texts don't say when he was born. The nascent Catholic church began celebrating his birth on December 25th in an effort to co-opt the Saturnalia festival (which, among other things, was observed by the giving of gifts and decorating the home with greenery). But Christian sacred text don't say when Jesus was born.
2) Christian sacred texts don't say how many magi visited Jesus. Church tradition has it that there were three (and it's always portrayed as three) but not because the Christian sacred texts say so.
I say this only to point out that if the maker of the video had taken an intro to world religions course he would have known that, because that's where I got my data. So might I suggest taking the video with a grain of salt.
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Finn- I'm hostile towards Anti because s/he lies to him/herself (and therefore others). It's not Anti's opinion that bothers me, its the deep fractures within Anti's own thinking. Anti does not have the courage to follow his/her religious convictions to their logical, inevitable outcome.
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Quote:You’re hostile to him because he holds a religious opinion you don’t agree with. And as a result you feel driven to bring the “Word” to him, and convert him because he’s a "heathen."
Originally posted by SignyM:
Finn- I'm hostile towards Anti because s/he lies to him/herself (and therefore others). It's not Anti's opinion that bothers me, its the deep fractures within Anti's own thinking. Anti does not have the courage to follow his/her religious convictions to their logical, inevitable outcome.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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The trouble that I encounter isn't that people are hostile towards religion per se, but that they are scornful towards it. One need look no further than [ removed ]'s post above to get a glimpse of how condescending people can sometimes be toward religious believers. You can be as intolerant and disrespectful as you please because as we all know, religious belief is little more than intellectual savagery, right? (Where's the eye-rolling emote when you need it?)
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No Finn. I know plenty of religous people. The problem I have with Anti is that his/her head is a snakes nest of contradictions.
Using "evidence" to prop up The Flood, then ignoring evidence when it doesn't fit.
Attempting to "prove" faith by science, but discounting science.
Saying s/he includes reality, then turning reality into opinion (mine and yours).
Claiming not to threaten people with hellfire, but doing exactly that.
If I went thru Anti's posts, I could prolly come up with more serious internal contradictions. I really don't care what conclusions Anti comes to, it's the endless, pointless rationalizations that drive me nuts.
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Have you encountered serious religious believers who you would say aren't beset by "a snake's nest of contradictions"?
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Quote:Like I said, you’re hostile to him because he holds a religious opinion you don’t agree with. And as a result you feel drive to bring the “Word” to him, and convert him because he’s a "heathen." It's you that is pushing your views on him, not the other way around.
Originally posted by SignyM:
No Finn. I know plenty of religous people. The problem I have with Anti is that his/her head is a snakes nest of contradictions.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
No Finn. I know plenty of religous people. The problem I have with Anti is that his/her head is a snakes nest of contradictions.
Also, I'd be curious to know what constitutes a contradiction of this type, if you don't mind sharing.
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Also, can I just point out the irony in the fact that we are at each other's throat over a thread our resident troll started? How please do you think he is with himself right about now?
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I added to my post above to detail those contradictions, but to try to make myself clear....
if Anti truly believes as s/he believes, then why attempt to rationalize those beliefs with some sort of pseudoscience? Anti's beliefs contradict the evidence, and endlessly trying to make the evidence conform to belief does injustice to both belief and to the evidence.
BELIEF is holding an idea without evidence and even despite evidence to the contrary. If it could be tested and validated against the evidence, it would be science and not belief. If you have to prop up your "belief" with peudoscience, then you actually trust the scientific process more than faith, you just don't like where science leads. Anti spends an inordinate of mental energy trying to paper over this huge chasm, and then tries to get everyone else to step onto the paper mache bridge.
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