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well, If FOX hadn't cancelled Firefly
1) We wouldn't appreciate it as much as we do now
2) as with most shows, later seasons would start to suck.
Kaylee isn't a sucky character, she's cute as hell.
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Originally posted by RiverDancer:
False. They do. All the characters get their feelings hurt, feel threatened, act irrational, take something the 'wrong way' or something else like that that makes them, you know, human. They mess up, they fight, they take issue and have issues with things. I think you maybe need to watch the show again.
Wrong.... you're doing it again now. Taking something I say and blowing it out of proportion and twisting it to suit your needs, which now seems to make a strawman argument against me.
Of course people get their feelings hurt,regardless of sex, but on the show it's about individual basis stuff. My point is that the women on the show don't make issue about having to prove their equal, or quite possibly superior status as females by bitching and moaning about it. Their actions and the way they carry themselves says it all for them. The topic of sexuality as far as being equal isn't even really touched on, if it even comes up at all throughout the course of the show or the movie. It's assumed going in that equality between sex is just the norm, and not even something worth debating. I don't feel that there is a single instance where any of the strong and independent women on the show even make that questionable in the slightest.
Any one of the women on the show would just laugh if anybody jokingly or even seriously questioned the power and ability of the female.
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Wrong.... you're doing it again now. Taking something I say and blowing it out of proportion and twisting it to suit your needs, which now seems to make a strawman argument against me.
Right, I forgot you're the eternal victim and everyone around you twists your words rather than just responding to what you write, and you really aren't here to argue at all, and I'm just being a jackass for pointing out that you are, in fact, wrong. Skip the pity-party, it doesn't work on me.
I could point out that no man on the show makes any implications about women being shallow, or having it easier because men are also shallow and it's 'easier' for women to be pretty. Closest is Mal giving Inara shit, and that's less about being a woman and more about her job. So it's kind of a two-way street. In both ways. You kind of insult everyone of any gender with your comments. Just thought I'd point that out.
PR had the right idea. I am also done talking to you. No sense in banging my head against a wall.
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Originally posted by RiverDancer:
I really liked Trash, but Our Mrs Reynolds isn't on my list of favorite episodes either. It was good, but it loses the element of surprise on repeat viewing, whereas in Trash you already know that YoSafBridge is out to con someone. Plus it has the great "I can kill you with my brain" moment :)
I'll agree that I like Trash more than OMR. For example, "Well. I appreciate your honesty. Not, you know, a lot, but..."
I don't know why that jumps out immediately, as I'm sure the episode has funnier moments, but I enjoyed that part.
So the point of this post was: okay, fair enough, Trash was better. I think it still falls behind most of the others on my list, though.
HONKS
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Originally posted by RiverDancer:
Right, I forgot you're the eternal victim....
Do I even know you, where you feel you can justify saying something like this? I have no idea who you are... I don't even recognize your screen name.
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...you are, in fact, wrong.
Opinion duely noted.
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Skip the pity-party, it doesn't work on me.
Not aware that I asked for anybody's pity once on this thread. Very interested to see where you came up with that. (Not really interested...)
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I could point out that no man on the show makes any implications about women being shallow, or having it easier because men are also shallow and it's 'easier' for women to be pretty.
It never came up, and truthfully, it would make for a very boring episode, I think...
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You kind of insult everyone of any gender with your comments. Just thought I'd point that out.
I have yet to see where I've even insulted women once. You're right about men though... I feel that I've done quite a good job of that.
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I am also done talking to you. No sense in banging my head against a wall.
Good. Then my job here is done....
Go find another crusade and quit being a pest.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
As a Vulcan of my aquaintance is fond of saying, change is the essential nature of all existence.
Please elevate yourself to a higher point, and travel on.*
Nope... Sorry man. Not a huge fan of change myself. It's not that I like the way things are today, it's just that I know that I will like them even less tomorrow.
That is, unless RP gets the presidency. I'll tell you what Chris. I will promise you this, here and now. If RP gets elected in '08, I will change my mind and Serenity will be my favorite movie of all time. Hell... I'll even get Serenity tatooed on a place which I have yet to decide on.... I'll let you know where when he spanks Giuliani (aka The White Devil that will make Bush Jr. look like Ghandi, if elected) in the primaries.
will undoubtedly be dissappointed in '08, 6ixStringJack
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Quote:Six. Been there. But it HAS to change...everything does without our consent. And for Joss to reflect that in his fiction....is genius, pure and simple.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nope... Sorry man. Not a huge fan of change myself. It's not that I like the way things are today, it's just that I know that I will like them even less tomorrow.
Be uncomfortable, dude. It's the way we grow.
It's not about what you like, it's about how you can groove to the new.
I love season seven of Buffy and I love Serenity!
Change? Bring it! Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Six. Been there. But it HAS to change...everything does without our consent. And for Joss to reflect that in his fiction....is genius, pure and simple.
Be uncomfortable, dude. It's the way we grow.
It's not about what you like, it's about how you can groove to the new.
I love season seven of Buffy and I love Serenity!
Change? Bring it! Chrisisall
I don't think things HAVE to change, but the people with all the money just keep making it change while people who just want to be left alone, who usually don't have any money, are forced to change along with their wishes. Very much like Firefly, and one of the main reasons I loved the show and related so well to the characters and the situation.
In my warped little world in my mind, minus the interstellar flight and the laser pistol, the real world is absolutely no different than Firefly. I never appreciated Joss for his genius for Buffy or Angel*, because it always seemed like a show horny teenagers watched to me, but Firefly just spoke my language. I'd be willing to bet that Joss would have similar views about change that I do, only difference is he's got a ton of money and change don't bother you so much when you can have all the toys you want to distract you from it. I'd be willing to bet before he became rich and famous though that he thought a lot like I did. I just got that vibe when I was watching the show. The entire ride felt like something I would write.
The movie on the other hand, IMO had none of that magic, although I have to admit I was pretty happy when the reavers made mince meat out of the Alliance at the end there.
* Don't hate on me Buffy & Angel lovers. I've seen some reruns on TNT, and also Charmed (which I'm fully aware is not Joss, but I always considered them to be marketed to the same demographic). All three of those shows aren't half bad. They kinda fell smack dab in the middle 7 or so year social peak of my life and I didn't have time for TV or video games. Got a little more time on my hands now that I should now though... Always up for a rerun of any of em, but I'm usually multi-taskin' and strummin on my guitar...
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I'm Soooooooooooooooory Phoenix Rose.
PLEASE forgive me!
lol... seriously. I'm not mad at you at all. I hope you aren't mad at me still. I really do likes ya, but these fingers and this off-kilter brain of mine just seem to keep getting me into trouble. If I didn't like ya, I wouldn't be wasting my time typing.
I argue with people constantly in the RWED, but the people that I argue with the most are, probably sadly, kinda like part of my life... if you know what I'm sayin'. I'd like to think that they respect me like I respect them.
You too, RiverDancer..... Sorry about being an ass. I don't have a college degree, but I'm sure if there was one for being a self righteous know-it-all a-hole I would get an honorary doctorate from Harvard... (see... megalomaniacal, right?)
Love me or hate me, that's just my way. Don't recokon an old dog like me could learn new tricks.... Hopefully ya'all are somewhere in the middle, leanin' towards love 
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>RiverDancer wrote:
>Saturday, June 23, 2007 07:06
>Christ Almighty, I didn't realize how many >browncoats were not only completely superficial, >but slaves to media ideals. This is >disappointing as hell.
Not that I'm particularly interested in keeping this part of the thread going but I object to being thought of in this way.
My apologies for horrifying you so much. I recognize you could have no way of knowing that I don't believe this -- but honestly, I was just answering in kind.
Crow
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