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Friday, June 22, 2007 8:29 AM

Is Heart of Gold really that unpopular? Mal/Inara is my favorite ship in the series and seeing the tension between them is awesome. There's so much that they say to each other without saying words.

And you gotta love the baby dummy that Rance carried. Priceless!

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Friday, June 22, 2007 10:37 AM

Yeah.... Mal/Inara are like "Moonlighting" in space.

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Friday, June 22, 2007 10:54 AM

My unpopular opinion is that I suspect Mal was in love with Zoe.... But given the shows cancellation it never developed...

*Shrugs* Who knows.....

I like to think it wouldn't have come to that, but given Joss' history with characters interacting over a long time, chances are it would have moved to that.

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Friday, June 22, 2007 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by psychotic:
Is Heart of Gold really that unpopular? Mal/Inara is my favorite ship in the series and seeing the tension between them is awesome. There's so much that they say to each other without saying words.

And you gotta love the baby dummy that Rance carried. Priceless!



No, it's not that unpopular, but it is, in my exerience and according to the episode reviews here, the least liked and lowest rating Firefly episode. Firefly has pretty much no bad episodes, just episodes some people think are inferior.

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Friday, June 22, 2007 12:37 PM

I love Heart of Gold.
I kind of love it for maybe unpopular reasons, though.
Actually, another unpopular opinion I might have is that Inara bugs the hell out of me. I never bought the chemistry between Mal and Inara, for one thing, but even if I did I don't like the way they interact. They both act like spineless, brainless juvenilles in the context of their 'relationship', even more so than Simon and Kaylee, who are younger than them! It's irritating as hell, really. And I think the way their relationship would have played out over five or seven years would have been equally irritating. They would have eventually stopped dancing around, said "oh yeah, we really do have something" been completely blissed out for about a week, and then it would all fall apart because Mal would get pissy about Inara's job again, and it would get even more stupid. She would probably leave again, Mal would get all cranky at everyone and act like a sulky, angry teenager, and it all would have been just ridiculous.
Neither of them are teenagers!
But they both act like it in relation to each other, and sometimes that spills over and affects other people!
It's annoying!
I understand that some people find teen angst to be dramatic and entertaining, but I'm not one of them, esspecially when the teen angst is coming from a 20-something and a 30-something. Seriously.


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Friday, June 22, 2007 1:16 PM

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Originally posted by reginaroadie:
Everyone here loves River so much. And Joss revolved the movie a lot around her and it's fit into his theme of ass kicking girls and all that. But personally, I didn't find her to be that interesting of a character. If anything, she's really boring. All she does is just stand in a corner, babble inconsistently and act erratic. She doesn't do ANYTHING. And to make matters worse, everyone makes a big deal out of her. The Alliance wants her, Simon sacrifices everything in his life for her, and the crew by the movie is ready to topple an entire government for her. Everyone's making decisions for her, which character-wise is just wrong. A character who makes no decisions for herself and is just moved around by others is a boring character. That's why I loved it when she shot Niska's men down in "War Stories", or toyed with Early in "Objects in Space" and retrieved Simon's medkit and slaughtered the Reavers in SERENITY. It's the only time in the entire franchise that SHE ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING OF HER OWN VOLITION.

I agree but I didn’t even like her reaver attacking in Serenity. It was just stupid. A 90 lb girl can’t deliver that kind of energy; I don’t care how kungfu she is. It turned the show from a matter-of-fact futuristic space opera into another supernatural superheroine show. Now it’s not that I don’t like the supernatural superheroine shows, but it’s not Firefly, and I think it was a little cheap to introduce that.



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Friday, June 22, 2007 1:22 PM

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I love Heart of Gold.
I kind of love it for maybe unpopular reasons, though.
Actually, another unpopular opinion I might have is that Inara bugs the hell out of me. I never bought the chemistry between Mal and Inara, for one thing, but even if I did I don't like the way they interact. They both act like spineless, brainless juvenilles in the context of their 'relationship', even more so than Simon and Kaylee, who are younger than them! It's irritating as hell, really. And I think the way their relationship would have played out over five or seven years would have been equally irritating. They would have eventually stopped dancing around, said "oh yeah, we really do have something" been completely blissed out for about a week, and then it would all fall apart because Mal would get pissy about Inara's job again, and it would get even more stupid. She would probably leave again, Mal would get all cranky at everyone and act like a sulky, angry teenager, and it all would have been just ridiculous.
Neither of them are teenagers!
But they both act like it in relation to each other, and sometimes that spills over and affects other people!
It's annoying!
I understand that some people find teen angst to be dramatic and entertaining, but I'm not one of them, esspecially when the teen angst is coming from a 20-something and a 30-something. Seriously.
/B]



It's interesting how teens are singled out for their immaturity over relationships. Yet the most pathetic breakups I've witnessed have been from friends in their 30s, 40s plus. Anyway regardless I think you're right. I too could not have taken watching another relationship build-up only to see it crumble away again...



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Friday, June 22, 2007 2:12 PM

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Originally posted by reginaroadie:
How far along are you now?




I've got about 8 more weeks. You'd think I would learn not to be in my last trimester durring the summer.

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Friday, June 22, 2007 2:22 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
It's interesting how teens are singled out for their immaturity over relationships...


Sorry. Wasn't that long ago that I was one myself, and that pussyfooting around, stubborn, terrified approach to relationships was a major theme. I got sick of it and just stopped doing it and was all the better for it in a lot of ways. So I kind of look at that and go "That's how I related to other teenagers when I was a teenager and it was pathetic!" My own personal bias. (still might not have had the most mature break-up ever, but I've always found losing something I've had a lot harder than losing a potential, so it's just more... Well, anyway. Breaking up is hard. I hope if it happens again in middle age I won't be pathetic about it, but... I'll stop talking about myself now.) Also, adults are supposed to be more adult, whereas teenagers are kind of expected to go through a stupid phase. Some people never get out of that phase, but it's considered to be very immature. Mal and Inara can show a great deal of maturity... when they aren't dealing with each other. So I guess that's what annoys me.


*edit* Oh! Just thought of another one I have. I don't think Simon and Kaylee are soulmates who would have fallen madly in love, gotten married, and stayed together (until one of them died). In fact, I would have felt absolutely sick if it went that way. At this point it would almost feel like trying to replace the lovely married couple we had in Wash and Zoe, but even without the whole death thing, it would have felt wrong, because Kaylee is kind of overly sensitive and Simon often puts his foot in his mouth, and I just don't think it would have gone smooth. And I don't think Joss and Co. would have passed up the dramatic possibilities of the impending impolsion. Kaylee is the baby of the ship, the little sister, the senior member of the crew, and the indispensible mechanic. Simon is an incredible medic and it would be foolish to kick him off the crew were there conflict, even if he hasn't been there as long. I think he would face a lot of glares and drama, even if it were Kaylee who ended it, and from a storytelling perspective that's just far more interesting than domestic bliss, marriage and babies. Also, when it comes to those two, I think it's more realistic. I remember having quite the argument about it not that long ago.


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Friday, June 22, 2007 4:53 PM

One of the opinions I have guardedly mentioned in the past is quite possibly one of the most unpopular a Browncoat could ever hold.

I think that FOX thought they were doing the right thing by scrambling the episode order.

Wait, no flaming please, hear me out. I am not saying that I think they were doing the right thing, but that they thought they were doing the right thing. First, they wanted a one-hour pilot so they could premiere Firefly and John Doe on the same night. FOX still only programs two hours in prime time, so if they had run "Serenity" the pilot, they would have had to delay the premiere of John Doe a week. Running "Serenity" as a two-parter would have made the most sense to us Browncoats, but at that time there weren't any Browncoats, and FOX felt the first half of "Serenity" was too slow, so they commissioned another pilot with more action.

When the ratings for "The Train Job" and "Bushwhacked" were not what they had hoped, they moved "Our Mrs. Reynolds" up to the third spot because they felt the appearance of the dead-sexy Saffron would attract more of the male audience they thought the show was going to appeal to in the first place.

I'm just saying.


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